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Jonathan Seidl shares
his messy journey
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of stumbling
into alcohol addiction.
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>> So I tell people like,
it was a slow fade.
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How many times
have we said it,
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or heard people say, "Oh, man.
I could really use a drink."
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And that turned
into one, and two,
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and five,
and ten.
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It just slowly
stacked up.
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Confessions of
a Christian Alcoholic.
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Next on
Life Today!
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♪
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RANDY: Welcome to Life Today.
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I'm Randy Robison.
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This is Tammy Trent.
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TAMMY: Hello!
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RANDY: Do you enjoy pain?
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That's an odd question.
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That's a bad way to start
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a show, isn't it?
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TAMMY: How do I answer?
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Do I enjoy pain?
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No, I hate it.
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What kind? Like a heartbreak
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kind of pain? Hate it.
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You want to stick a needle
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in me and draw my blood?
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Hate it.
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So, no, I don't
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like any pain.
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RANDY: We don't.
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None of us like pain.
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You know, there's two ways
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we can go with that.
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One's good, one's not bad,
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but one's easy
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and one's hard.
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We're going to talk
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about that today.
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Our guest is Jonathon Seidl.
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He's the author of a book
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just out called, Confessions
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of a Christian Alcoholic.
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Jon joins us to explain
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a bit of that
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and talk about the pain.
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Welcome!
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JON: Randy, thank you.
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It's great to be back again.
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A lot has changed since
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I was here last time.
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RANDY: Well, okay.
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That's one of the questions
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because the last time
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we had you on the program
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and then this.
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JON: Yeah, right!
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And so last time, I'm talking
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about mental health and faith,
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and it's a great conversation.
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I kind of joke that
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that was part one of my story.
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I didn't realize
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that was part one.
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Then, I wrote that book.
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I had encountered a lot
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of hard times in life.
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And then I encountered even,
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the greatest hardship
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of my life.
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I thought I was prepared
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for it and I wasn't.
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That's in a sense
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why we have this book.
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RANDY: Walk us through
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some of that.
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JON: Yeah. I think
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it's interesting.
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You write a book,
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and I think a lot of people
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think, oh, my gosh!
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It's like the greatest
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experience in the world.
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It is a great experience.
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But you pour out so much
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of yourself into a book.
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I had a friend who had
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written a couple of books
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and he said, Hey, you need
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to be careful.
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You're going to publish
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a book, and no matter what,
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you're going to feel
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a little let down.
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Sure enough!
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The book comes out,
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and you have great
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conversations, but
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I realized I also had
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unmet expectations.
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You know?
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That was really
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the first time the devil
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then started using --
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he used that to whisper lies.
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Lies and things that
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went back to even childhood.
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That was the first domino
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to fall.
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The second domino was I had
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a business at the time where
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I was doing some consulting
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work, and I had secured
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an amazing consulting client.
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And then two weeks before
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Christmas, they come and
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they say, Hey, we're going
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in a different direction.
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I'm like, I have no --
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I have no other client.
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Like what?
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Then you fast forward
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to the spring, and my son,
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four-years-old at the time,
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he starts just
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limping around.
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We take him to the doctor,
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and, it's kind of one
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of those, the initial
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appointment is he's fine.
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My wife's mama-intuition
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says, No, he's not fine.
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It's kind of like before
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you know it, you're at
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Children's Hospital
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and you're meeting with
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an oncologist and they're
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like, he's got a bone tumor.
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While that did end up
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being benign, it was that
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process and finding out.
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So I tell people
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it was a slow fade.
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How many times have we said it
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or heard people say, oh man,
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I could really use
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a drink, right?
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That turned into one,
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and two, and five, and ten.
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It just slowly stacked up
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until May 2023.
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My wife and I go down
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to Miami, our anniversary is
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around Memorial Day weekend.
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And so, we always kind of
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have a three-day weekend
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built in.
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We go down and, she has
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this night where she says,
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"Hey, I just kind of want
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a night in.
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She's a reader, you know?
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She's like, Go do
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whatever you want.
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I was like, no, I was never
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a party drinker.
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I need a drink to escape.
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What I would come to find out
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later is that ultimately,
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my addiction is not
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to alcohol, but
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it's to escapism, right?
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So that night, I say,
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I'm just going to go down
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to the hotel bar.
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There is a NBA playoff game.
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She looks at me because
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by now it's starting --
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I think I'm hiding it
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really well.
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She still didn't know
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the full extent but
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she's starting to realize it.
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She looks at me as
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I'm leaving the hotel room
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and she says,
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"Don't get drunk."
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I said, "I'm not going
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to get drunk."
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I was not planning
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on getting drunk.
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I go down to the hotel bar
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and the first drink turns
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into, I don't know how many.
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By one a.m. I am just --
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I am drunk.
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I'm like, I cannot go back.
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So I stumbled down
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to South Beach, Miami.
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It's so interesting.
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I tell people,
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you don't realize how busy
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South Beach Miami
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is at one in the morning.
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All kinds of people!
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TAMMY: I was going to say
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you blended right in.
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JON: Yeah, doing all
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kinds of things.
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I get down there and pretty
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soon after drinking so much,
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I have to go to the bathroom.
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Drunk Jon says, Well,
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you've got the world's
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biggest toilet
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in front of you.
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So, I wade in
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with all my clothes on.
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I start going to the bathroom.
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I'm neck deep I just
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have this moment of like --
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I look up and it's like,
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what has your life become?
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That next day my wife
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asked me about it.
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I say it's kind of
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my Peter moment.
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I lie to her three times.
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Finally at dinner that night,
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I say --
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I mean, I am just a wreck.
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I say, Hey, babe.
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I've gotta let you know.
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I did get drunk last night.
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She breaks down and she goes,
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I don't think you know
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what that does to a woman,
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so easily, so quickly.
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Like what else could
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you be lying about?
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I start making, you know,
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we pay our dinner bill,
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we walk down to the beach,
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and I'm making
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all the promises, I'm never
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going to drink again,
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I know I need help,
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like something's wrong.
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She looks at me and she says,
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"Jon, I don't care
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if you never drink again.
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That's not my goal.
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If you never have another
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drop of alcohol, whatever.
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I need you to get to the root
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of why you're drinking
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the way you do.
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Why you're turning to this.
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Because even if you never
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drink again and you don't
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do that," she's like,
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"it's just going to be
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something else."
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I kind of am like,
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Can we go back
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to the not drinking part?
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Like, that would be easier.
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Because there was traumas
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from my childhood,
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things that had happened to me
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growing up, and just stuff
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that I never dealt with
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and didn't want to deal with.
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But I looked at her
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and I said, Okay.
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I pulled up a Christian
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trauma therapist that
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we had been talking about.
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I literally typed in,
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I include this in the book
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the actual email that I sent.
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I typed it up and say, "Hey,
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I think I got some issues
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that I need to work through.
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I'm coming back from Miami.
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When can I see you?"
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That started
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the healing process.
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RANDY: So what your wife said
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has so much insight
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that I don't want people
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to miss it.
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Because, when I opened
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talking about pain,
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we don't like pain.
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We all like to escape
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the pain somehow.
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But in a lot of arenas,
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even in church arenas,
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we go for the behavior
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modification. Right?
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And then we become
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people who, well, we don't
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do those things
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that are destructive.
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And so we go, Oh!
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Well, it's good.
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But that root --
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JON: It's so important!
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I think that's why I even,
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I say this to people,
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and some people
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look at me weird.
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People who come to me with
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a problem and they're like,
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I need to stop drinking.
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I'm like, Okay.
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We talk, and then finally
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I'm like, I don't want you
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to be sober.
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The goal is Jesus.
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Because when the goal
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is Jesus, that's when
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he can heal and root out --
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You know, I talk about
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the parts of ourselves
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in the book.
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If you think about it,
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we're all made up
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of different parts.
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It's kind of like that movie,
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Inside Out.
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It's like there are parts
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of ourselves that
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we give to Jesus.
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The healthy parts of me
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wrote a bestselling book
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on faith and mental health,
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and that was great.
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But then there were
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these other parts of myself
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that Satan started
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whispering to me about,
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starting in the Fall of 2021.
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Those parts,
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I'm not talking about that!
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I'm keeping that hidden
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and buried.
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Those are the parts
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that you drink away.
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I knew that if I was finally
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going to get it to the point
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where I knew it needed to be,
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I needed to do
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something different.
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It wasn't just getting sober.
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It was inviting Jesus
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into those parts of myself
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that I had hidden and buried.
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Once I invited him into
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those parts, that's when
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I got sobriety thrown in.
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RANDY: It's easy.
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JON: It's like
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the C.S. Lewis quote.
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I love C.S. Lewis;
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I named my son after him.
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In Mere Christianity,
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he says, "Aim for heaven
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and you'll get the earth
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thrown in."
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Aim for Jesus, you'll get
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sobriety thrown in.
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So many times, we aim
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for sobriety, and it's like,
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maybe you white-knuckle it
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for a little bit.
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I met a guy last week,
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22 years he white-knuckled
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sobriety.
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And then, when he couldn't
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white-knuckle it anymore,
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it led to 17 years of pain
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of going back to the bottle.
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When I speak on this,
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I ask the audience and say,
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Who here knows
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a miserable sober person?
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They bus AA groups and
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people in, to hear me talking,
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and they raise their hands.
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I'm like, great!
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Guess what?
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The world applauds them.
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The world says, as long
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as you're sober,
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it's good, right?
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The message that I'm trying
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to bring to people now is,
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I don't want you just sober.
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I want you having the most
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fulfilled, flourishing life
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that then sobriety
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can't help but be there.
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So aim for Jesus,
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you'll get sobriety thrown in.
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Aim for heaven and you'll get
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the earth thrown in.
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TAMMY: You talk about root,
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okay, and you getting
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to the root.
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Were you always aware that
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there is something here,
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and I'm trying to escape it?
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Because I think that
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there are people
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that also feel like,
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do I have a root problem?
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I've had things
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in my own life.
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I've written a new book,
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and in part of it, I even
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go through some things.
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I talked about walking into
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my marriage, not realizing
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I had a root problem
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in this area of my life,
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and it affected the
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early years of my marriage
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because I was unaware
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that I had a root problem.
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So how was yours?
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I mean, did you always
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feel like you had one,
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or did you have to find it?
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Like, let me dig through
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all of this to find,
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there it is.
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Now, I can address it.
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JON: It's a both/and, right?
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I'm sure in the early parts
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of your marriage,
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there were little triggers.
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There were little hints
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of it. Right?
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Maybe your husband would
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say something, or something
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would happen, and you just
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start reacting
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a certain way, right?
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Now, that's a hint that
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there's something below
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the surface.
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But so many times,
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we treat the symptom.
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So for me, it's like I knew
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I was getting those
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little indicators, but
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I would always, in a sense,
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treat those symptoms.
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And listen, symptom treatment
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can work.
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It can work.
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But then, when you hit the
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hardest point in your life,
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when all those things
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start going --
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when, after 13 years of
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marriage, it's like you can't
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just live off of the feeling
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of the wedding vows.
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For some people, that takes
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six years, and for some
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it's 26, right?
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Like, you start realizing,
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oh, my goodness!
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There is something bigger
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and deeper here.
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And so, for me,
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I started finally
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paying attention
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to some of those things
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and realizing,
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there's something
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greater here.
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I've tried this way
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to deal with it,
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I've gone to therapy
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and counseling.
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Do you know what I mean?
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It's like, this keeps
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coming up.
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Things keep happening.
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I'm still trying to,
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this conversation leads to me
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feeling this way, and then
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it's just real easy
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to be like, I just want
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to have a drink.
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That's a lot easier
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than trying to be like, Let me
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sit with this for a second.
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TAMMY: I noticed that
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with this.
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I want to escape it.
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I don't want a solution.
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I don't want to fix it.
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I'm upset. I'm offended.
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I'm just done.
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Give me a drink.
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Yeah, and that's probably
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where you were.
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You found yourself
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every single time.
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I love that you broke free,
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brother. Love it.
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Do you still struggle?
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JON: Yes and no. Right?
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There are some people who
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miraculously, they never
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have a --
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they smell alcohol
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and it probably makes them
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want to throw up.
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Praise God for that.
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But because my ultimate
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addiction is really
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to escapism, it's like this
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side of heaven, I don't think
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that's ever going away.
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I'll have a tough
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conversation with my wife,
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I'll have a tough season
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with my kids.
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And it's like, yeah,
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I want to escape that.
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Do you know what I mean?
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And guess what?
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Alcohol is a cheap,
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easy way to do that.
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I'm not the first person
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to say that.
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It's like alcohol
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isn't my problem.
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Alcohol was the solution
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to my problems.
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RANDY: And then it becomes
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a problem.
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JON: Exactly! Exactly!
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And then there's physical.
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I would always play
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the comparison game
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and say, Well, I'm not
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acting like this or
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I'm not feeling this way.
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Then you stop drinking.
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You're like, oh, just because
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I didn't have the shakes?
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I guess I did have some
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alcohol withdrawal symptoms.
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So the physical aspect
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kicks in.
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But so, in that sense,
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I still struggle.
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It's not that I'm sitting
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here thinking, I could
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really go for a drink
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right now, but the escapism.
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RANDY: Do you have a yard?
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JON: Yeah.
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RANDY: Do you mow your yard?
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JON: Yeah.
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RANDY: Do you have weeds?
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JON: Yes.
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RANDY: Did you know,
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I discovered this years ago.
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If you mow often enough,
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the weeds will look okay.
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Your neighbors won't file
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a complaint against you.
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JON: It just looks
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like the grass.
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RANDY: I asked a guy who had
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a nice yard one time.
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How do you have
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such a nice yard?
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And he's like, no, you got
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to get the weeds
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out by the roots!
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But that's hard work.
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What I hear you saying, and
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tell me if I'm hearing you
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right, is that no matter
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what the issue is,
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if you're just mowing
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the yard, you're just
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surfacing it, it's always
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going to come back.
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You've got to get the root.
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Am I hearing you right?
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JON: 100%! Absolutely.
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There's a whole chapter
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in the book called,
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"Root Versus Fruit."
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And so, are you going
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to get to the root, right?
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Because the easy way
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is to just mow it.
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Sometimes, you can even
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just get weed killer. Right?
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But you really need
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that stuff that again,
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gets down to the root.
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RANDY: You do. You do.
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I know that for me
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and it's frustrating.
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Yeah, you've got to get to it.
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TAMMY: And there are a lot
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of people, don't you think,
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Randy and Jon, that are
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struggling with something.
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Your book, when I think
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about this, is it just
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for somebody struggling
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with alcoholism?
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Who'd you write it for?
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Is it for maybe a family that
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they're watching someone
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struggle with some kind
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of escapism and this would
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help them to understand?
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Or is it really just for
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the person that needs to find
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breakthrough in their life?
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JON: So, it's definitely
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for all of those.
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So, obviously, the person
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who finds themselves
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struggling with alcohol.
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But I also talk to people
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who's like, you may think,
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oh, I don't think
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my relationship with alcohol
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is bad, right?
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TAMMY: It's not the worst sin.
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JON: I would encourage you
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to read chapter two
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in the book.
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It's funny, I had someone
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who didn't like the book --
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shocker!
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Say, "You're just trying
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to convince everyone
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that they're an alcoholic
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and you don't want
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anyone to drink."
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I said, "Neither of
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those things is true." Right?
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But here's what people
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don't understand.
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Anything that is misordered
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in your life is disordered,
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right?
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So, especially as Christians,
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it is not about quantity.
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Even the world right now
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changed the definition
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of alcoholism in 2013
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and how they diagnose it.
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It's not about quantity.
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Quantity is a factor, but
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it's one of many factors.
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So what I tell people is,
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if you want to try to
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figure out if something's
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misordered in your life,
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or you keep butting up
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against certain things
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in your life like, the book
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is going to help you.
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It's going to help as well
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the family members
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who want to understand it.
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It's Confessions of
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a Christian Alcoholic,
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but alcoholism is just
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the vehicle for any of
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those misordered/disordered
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things in our life.
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So maybe it's confession of
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a Christian scroller, right?
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Someone that's always
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on the phone.
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Or your issue is food,
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or work, or your kids,
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or your spouse.
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This one, your ministry!
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How many pastors are
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out there that even
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their wives will joke,
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He's married to the church.
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Right?
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We think, oh, well,
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that's an okay one.
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That's an okay one.
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Yeah. Right.
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But again, anything that
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is misordered is disordered.
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RANDY: That's true.
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So, when you talk about
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getting to the root
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it's interesting because
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that's what we try to do
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in our mission outreaches.
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Because there are a lot
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of great things we can do
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to help people, and
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we've seen some success.
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But Tammy, we know
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it's a spiritual root.
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TAMMY: It is, Randy,
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and we have had the privilege
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to be able to go into
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some incredibly dark places.
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But seeing the light of Jesus
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just push through it all
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and bring life to
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these children especially.
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I just came back
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from Southeast Asia and
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I cannot tell you how
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life-changing a trip
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like that is for me, but
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I cannot express how much
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we need you to come
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alongside us to continue
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this great and mighty
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life-changing work of God
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all around the world.
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Please take a minute
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and watch this.
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Carefully watch this,
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and then we'll come out on
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the other side to wrap it up
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with Jon.
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Children should be
protected, nurtured,
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and be able to live
in a safe environment.
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But there is a dark
and evil presence
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that shatters
that reality
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for literally
millions of children.
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It's called
"sex trafficking."
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DAVID: These are kids
that are forced to work
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all sorts of hours
of the night and day.
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These are kids
that have been forced
to have sex with people.
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They're being abused
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and they're being
photographed
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doing things that no child
should ever have to do.
00:20:09.141 --> 00:20:11.176 align:start line:85% position:18% size:65%
To combat this evil force,
00:20:11.243 --> 00:20:13.178 align:center line:79% position:50% size:68%
Life Outreach has partnered
with ministries
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who are committed
to reaching, rescuing,
and restoring the lives
00:20:16.548 --> 00:20:20.519 align:center line:79% position:50% size:68%
of children and young girls
who have been trafficked.
00:20:20.586 --> 00:20:22.955 align:start line:79% position:23% size:55%
Recently, Tammy Trent
and John Yates visited
00:20:23.021 --> 00:20:25.824 align:center line:79% position:50% size:63%
our beautiful Life Center
in Southeast Asia.
00:20:25.891 --> 00:20:27.826 align:start line:79% position:28% size:45%
It is a safe haven
for children,
00:20:27.893 --> 00:20:29.828 align:center line:79% position:50% size:33%
many of whom
have suffered
00:20:29.895 --> 00:20:31.830 align:center line:79% position:50% size:48%
at the hands
of child predators.
00:20:31.897 --> 00:20:34.666 align:start line:79% position:18% size:63%
Our team had a chance
to play with the children
00:20:34.733 --> 00:20:37.869 align:center line:79% position:50% size:70%
and to join them
in their praise and worship.
00:20:37.936 --> 00:20:40.305 align:start line:79% position:18% size:63%
While at our Life Center,
John and Tammy learned
00:20:40.372 --> 00:20:42.307 align:center line:79% position:50% size:58%
how the healing process
begins for children
00:20:42.374 --> 00:20:45.110 align:center line:79% position:50% size:73%
who have suffered the horrors
of being trafficked.
00:20:45.177 --> 00:20:47.112 align:start line:58% position:20% size:60%
JOHN: So, as you can see
over my shoulder,
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Tammy is in a room with
a caregiver and a child.
00:20:50.816 --> 00:20:52.751 align:start line:79% position:30% size:38%
But this is not
just any room.
00:20:52.818 --> 00:20:54.753 align:start line:79% position:15% size:68%
This is a very special room
for children
00:20:54.820 --> 00:20:57.656 align:center line:79% position:50% size:70%
who have suffered the trauma
of child sex trafficking.
00:20:57.723 --> 00:21:00.592 align:start line:79% position:18% size:65%
These children are brought
into this safe place
00:21:00.659 --> 00:21:02.728 align:center line:79% position:50% size:58%
where they will be able
to tell their stories
00:21:02.794 --> 00:21:05.897 align:center line:79% position:50% size:48%
to a therapist
who has built trust
00:21:05.964 --> 00:21:08.467 align:center line:79% position:50% size:48%
over weeks
of periods of time.
00:21:08.533 --> 00:21:11.203 align:start line:79% position:15% size:68%
Those children's stories
will be able to be utilized
00:21:11.269 --> 00:21:15.173 align:center line:79% position:50% size:45%
to bring justice
inside of a trauma
00:21:15.240 --> 00:21:18.410 align:center line:79% position:50% size:63%
that no child
should ever have to face.
00:21:18.477 --> 00:21:21.079 align:start line:79% position:15% size:68%
Because of your generosity,
we've been able to build
00:21:21.146 --> 00:21:23.815 align:center line:79% position:50% size:68%
some of the most
state-of-the-art facilities
00:21:23.882 --> 00:21:27.185 align:center line:79% position:50% size:70%
that are tools
in the hands of missionaries
00:21:27.252 --> 00:21:29.187 align:center line:79% position:50% size:65%
to bring healing and hope,
and restoration
00:21:29.254 --> 00:21:31.356 align:center line:79% position:50% size:58%
to the heart of a child
who has suffered
00:21:31.423 --> 00:21:34.926 align:center line:79% position:50% size:68%
in a way that no human
should ever have to suffer.
00:21:34.993 --> 00:21:36.928 align:start line:10% position:25% size:48%
There are thousands
of children
00:21:36.995 --> 00:21:40.098 align:center line:10% position:50% size:75%
who are suffering right now
at the hands of sex predators,
00:21:40.165 --> 00:21:42.234 align:center line:10% position:50% size:53%
and we need your help
to continue our work
00:21:42.300 --> 00:21:45.671 align:center line:10% position:50% size:58%
of reaching, rescuing,
and restoring the lives
00:21:45.737 --> 00:21:48.640 align:center line:10% position:50% size:58%
of these precious ones.
00:21:52.210 --> 00:21:53.712 align:start line:85% position:10% size:55%
RANDY: It's an amazing
00:21:53.779 --> 00:21:55.180 align:start line:85% position:10% size:65%
outreach, an amazing work,
00:21:55.247 --> 00:21:56.415 align:start line:85% position:10% size:55%
and it's only possible
00:21:56.481 --> 00:21:57.649 align:start line:85% position:10% size:70%
because of viewers like you.
00:21:57.716 --> 00:21:59.317 align:start line:85% position:10% size:75%
But, Tammy, I want to ask you,
00:21:59.384 --> 00:22:00.452 align:start line:85% position:10% size:65%
what's it like to sit with
00:22:00.519 --> 00:22:01.520 align:start line:85% position:10% size:53%
a child that you know
00:22:01.586 --> 00:22:04.156 align:start line:85% position:10% size:60%
that has been so abused?
00:22:04.222 --> 00:22:06.558 align:start line:85% position:10% size:60%
TAMMY: Gosh, Randy, when
00:22:06.625 --> 00:22:08.093 align:start line:85% position:10% size:68%
I watch these stories back,
00:22:08.160 --> 00:22:09.394 align:start line:85% position:10% size:55%
of course, we said it,
00:22:09.461 --> 00:22:10.662 align:start line:85% position:10% size:73%
it takes me right back there.
00:22:10.729 --> 00:22:11.763 align:start line:85% position:10% size:73%
I remember being in that room
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with that little girl.
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It is such an interesting
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emotional feeling that I get.
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Almost sometimes of anger,
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to be honest with you,
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of just like,
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who did this to you?
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Who did this to you?
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And you see the innocence
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of this precious little girl
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you saw in that room where
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I just got to play with her
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for the longest time,
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and we had shells
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and sand in that box.
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But to see her coming back
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to life again because of the
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atmosphere that she was in,
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of healing, safety,
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protection, it's a hard place
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for me to be because
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I cannot believe,
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and I'm so upset
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that they're even there.
00:22:43.495 --> 00:22:45.330 align:start line:85% position:10% size:60%
But I know how effective
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this ministry is,
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and I know that it is
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turning things around.
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In that sense, I can sort of,
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I'm carrying tension with me
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so I can feel the hope
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and I know it's real.
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RANDY: The reality is,
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we know who does this
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to children, ultimately,
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on a spiritual level.
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This is straight out
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of the pit of hell.
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My question is, who's going
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to restore them?
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We know the answer
00:23:10.655 --> 00:23:13.125 align:start line:85% position:10% size:40%
is Jesus Christ.
00:23:13.191 --> 00:23:14.793 align:start line:85% position:10% size:73%
But, it's interesting because
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God always sends his people
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to do his work on this earth.
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That's what this outreach is.
00:23:22.467 --> 00:23:23.668 align:start line:10% position:10% size:35%
For those that
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we can prevent them from
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ever being in a position,
00:23:26.404 --> 00:23:27.572 align:start line:10% position:10% size:63%
like that little girl is,
00:23:27.639 --> 00:23:28.774 align:start line:10% position:10% size:55%
we want to reach them.
00:23:28.840 --> 00:23:29.875 align:start line:10% position:10% size:35%
For those that
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are in that situation,
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we want to rescue them.
00:23:32.277 --> 00:23:33.445 align:start line:10% position:10% size:45%
And for those like
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this young girl,
00:23:34.846 --> 00:23:37.282 align:start line:10% position:10% size:60%
that have been horribly,
00:23:37.349 --> 00:23:39.184 align:start line:10% position:10% size:53%
horribly traumatized,
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we want to restore them.
00:23:42.254 --> 00:23:44.156 align:start line:10% position:10% size:40%
That is the work
00:23:44.222 --> 00:23:45.390 align:start line:10% position:10% size:38%
of Rescue Life.
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That work only takes place
00:23:47.726 --> 00:23:49.628 align:start line:10% position:10% size:43%
when you join us.
00:23:49.694 --> 00:23:51.630 align:start line:10% position:10% size:60%
A gift of $128 right now
00:23:51.696 --> 00:23:53.098 align:start line:10% position:10% size:70%
will help start that process
00:23:53.165 --> 00:23:54.499 align:start line:10% position:10% size:55%
of reaching, rescuing,
00:23:54.566 --> 00:23:56.168 align:start line:10% position:10% size:60%
or restoring that child.
00:23:56.234 --> 00:23:57.669 align:start line:10% position:10% size:53%
Some of you can reach
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ten children,
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maybe even many more.
00:24:02.574 --> 00:24:03.875 align:start line:10% position:10% size:60%
All of you can be a part
00:24:03.942 --> 00:24:06.077 align:start line:10% position:10% size:70%
of completing this beautiful
00:24:06.144 --> 00:24:07.212 align:start line:10% position:10% size:60%
facility that we want to
00:24:07.279 --> 00:24:09.014 align:start line:10% position:10% size:73%
raise there in Southeast Asia
00:24:09.080 --> 00:24:11.016 align:start line:10% position:10% size:58%
to house more of these,
00:24:11.082 --> 00:24:12.317 align:start line:10% position:10% size:33%
mainly girls,
00:24:12.384 --> 00:24:13.385 align:start line:10% position:10% size:45%
but some boys too.
00:24:13.451 --> 00:24:14.619 align:start line:10% position:10% size:53%
This is the last week
00:24:14.686 --> 00:24:15.687 align:start line:10% position:10% size:48%
we'll be on the air
00:24:15.754 --> 00:24:16.688 align:start line:10% position:10% size:48%
talking about this.
00:24:16.755 --> 00:24:17.823 align:start line:10% position:10% size:48%
So please, will you
00:24:17.889 --> 00:24:19.057 align:start line:10% position:10% size:55%
join with us right now
00:24:19.124 --> 00:24:21.026 align:start line:10% position:10% size:68%
to build something special?
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I'm a father.
00:24:22.260 --> 00:24:23.228 align:start line:10% position:10% size:53%
I'm now a grandfather
00:24:23.295 --> 00:24:24.629 align:start line:10% position:10% size:43%
of a little girl.
00:24:24.696 --> 00:24:25.997 align:start line:10% position:10% size:50%
I would do anything.
00:24:26.064 --> 00:24:28.366 align:start line:10% position:10% size:55%
Anything to get one of
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my children out of that
00:24:29.501 --> 00:24:33.672 align:start line:10% position:10% size:68%
situation, to restore them.
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Anything!
00:24:35.140 --> 00:24:36.341 align:start line:10% position:10% size:70%
And I'm just a human father.
00:24:36.408 --> 00:24:37.609 align:start line:10% position:10% size:50%
God's a good Father.
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He wants to restore them,
00:24:39.678 --> 00:24:40.645 align:start line:10% position:10% size:40%
but he wants you
00:24:40.712 --> 00:24:41.913 align:start line:10% position:10% size:48%
to be a part of it.
00:24:41.980 --> 00:24:44.349 align:start line:10% position:10% size:53%
So please, go online,
00:24:44.416 --> 00:24:45.884 align:start line:10% position:10% size:40%
go to the phone,
00:24:45.951 --> 00:24:48.720 align:start line:10% position:10% size:68%
make the best gift you can.
00:24:48.787 --> 00:24:50.422 align:start line:10% position:10% size:73%
We can rescue these children.
00:24:50.488 --> 00:24:51.823 align:start line:10% position:10% size:40%
We can show them
00:24:51.890 --> 00:24:53.024 align:start line:10% position:10% size:40%
the love of God.
00:24:53.091 --> 00:24:54.960 align:start line:10% position:10% size:53%
They can be restored.
00:24:55.026 --> 00:24:57.262 align:start line:10% position:10% size:30%
Do it today.
00:24:58.463 --> 00:25:01.433 align:center line:10% position:50% size:65%
Innocent children, longing
to be loved and cared for,
00:25:01.499 --> 00:25:03.435 align:center line:10% position:50% size:45%
are being abducted
and sold
00:25:03.501 --> 00:25:06.037 align:center line:10% position:50% size:55%
into the evil industry
of human trafficking.
00:25:06.104 --> 00:25:10.208 align:start line:10% position:13% size:73%
Through Mission: Rescue Life,
your gift today of only $128
00:25:10.275 --> 00:25:13.144 align:center line:10% position:40% size:60%
will help reach, rescue,
or restore a child
00:25:13.211 --> 00:25:15.413 align:center line:10% position:38% size:55%
and change
their destiny forever.
00:25:15.480 --> 00:25:18.783 align:start line:10% position:43% size:48%
Gifts of $64 or $32
will be combined
00:25:18.850 --> 00:25:21.553 align:center line:10% position:55% size:73%
with support from others
to help rescue one more child
00:25:21.620 --> 00:25:24.522 align:center line:10% position:63% size:58%
from the shame and pain
of sexual slavery.
00:25:24.589 --> 00:25:27.392 align:start line:53% position:20% size:58%
Currently,
our LIFE Rescue Centers
in Southeast Asia
00:25:27.459 --> 00:25:29.494 align:center line:58% position:50% size:43%
are at
maximum capacity.
00:25:29.561 --> 00:25:31.529 align:start line:58% position:25% size:48%
More space
is urgently needed,
00:25:31.596 --> 00:25:33.598 align:center line:58% position:50% size:50%
and we must complete
and renovate
00:25:33.665 --> 00:25:35.700 align:center line:58% position:50% size:43%
a new rescue home
immediately.
00:25:35.767 --> 00:25:38.403 align:start line:58% position:18% size:63%
Please consider
a very special extra gift
00:25:38.470 --> 00:25:42.974 align:center line:53% position:50% size:48%
as we urgently need
$1.25 million above
our normal budget
00:25:43.041 --> 00:25:45.744 align:center line:58% position:50% size:60%
to complete and renovate
this place of hope.
00:25:45.810 --> 00:25:47.779 align:start line:10% position:18% size:65%
With a gift of any amount,
we'll send you
00:25:47.846 --> 00:25:50.181 align:center line:10% position:50% size:68%
Power, Provision and Peace:
Bringing together
00:25:50.248 --> 00:25:52.617 align:center line:10% position:50% size:60%
the life-changing truths
of Acts, Romans, and
00:25:52.684 --> 00:25:55.553 align:center line:10% position:50% size:70%
First and Second Corinthians
in the Passion Translation.
00:25:55.620 --> 00:25:57.622 align:start line:10% position:23% size:55%
These books come alive
with fresh revelation
00:25:57.689 --> 00:25:59.724 align:center line:10% position:50% size:48%
and timeless power.
00:25:59.791 --> 00:26:02.027 align:start line:10% position:23% size:55%
With your gift of $128
or more,
00:26:02.093 --> 00:26:04.129 align:center line:10% position:50% size:55%
you'll receive
the beautiful and soft
00:26:04.195 --> 00:26:06.164 align:center line:10% position:50% size:60%
"Perfect Peace Blanket,"
bearing the words
00:26:06.231 --> 00:26:09.067 align:center line:10% position:50% size:60%
of Isaiah 26:3
as a meaningful reminder
00:26:09.134 --> 00:26:12.203 align:center line:10% position:50% size:70%
that those who trust
in the Lord are never alone.
00:26:12.270 --> 00:26:15.440 align:start line:10% position:10% size:60%
Finally, please consider
a gift of $1,280,
00:26:15.507 --> 00:26:17.509 align:center line:10% position:35% size:50%
which will help save
ten children,
00:26:17.575 --> 00:26:19.577 align:center line:10% position:38% size:53%
and you may
request our inspiring
00:26:19.644 --> 00:26:21.680 align:center line:10% position:33% size:43%
bronze sculpture,
"Lion of Judah."
00:26:21.746 --> 00:26:23.782 align:center line:10% position:38% size:55%
This is the last week!
00:26:23.848 --> 00:26:27.619 align:start line:10% position:18% size:63%
Please call, write,
or make your gift online.
00:26:28.820 --> 00:26:29.888 align:start line:58% position:10% size:58%
RANDY: We do appreciate
00:26:29.955 --> 00:26:31.022 align:start line:58% position:10% size:50%
your support because
00:26:31.089 --> 00:26:32.090 align:start line:58% position:10% size:48%
we desperately need
00:26:32.157 --> 00:26:33.158 align:start line:58% position:10% size:33%
your support.
00:26:33.224 --> 00:26:34.225 align:start line:58% position:10% size:53%
This is the last week
00:26:34.292 --> 00:26:35.327 align:start line:58% position:10% size:48%
we'll be on the air
00:26:35.393 --> 00:26:36.361 align:start line:58% position:10% size:43%
talking about it.
00:26:36.428 --> 00:26:37.562 align:start line:58% position:10% size:58%
By the way, if you want
00:26:37.629 --> 00:26:38.663 align:start line:58% position:10% size:63%
someone to pray with you,
00:26:38.730 --> 00:26:39.764 align:start line:58% position:10% size:58%
whatever it is that you
00:26:39.831 --> 00:26:41.032 align:start line:58% position:10% size:75%
haven't gotten to the root of,
00:26:41.099 --> 00:26:42.100 align:start line:58% position:10% size:53%
we have a prayer line
00:26:42.167 --> 00:26:43.201 align:start line:58% position:10% size:38%
that's for you.
00:26:43.268 --> 00:26:44.302 align:start line:58% position:10% size:65%
Because yes, we care about
00:26:44.369 --> 00:26:45.603 align:start line:58% position:10% size:60%
people in desperate need
00:26:45.670 --> 00:26:46.805 align:start line:58% position:10% size:43%
around the world.
00:26:46.871 --> 00:26:48.306 align:start line:58% position:10% size:65%
We care about you as well.
00:26:48.373 --> 00:26:49.507 align:start line:58% position:10% size:50%
So feel free to call
00:26:49.574 --> 00:26:50.575 align:start line:58% position:10% size:30%
that number.
00:26:50.642 --> 00:26:51.643 align:start line:58% position:10% size:48%
Someone will gladly
00:26:51.710 --> 00:26:52.711 align:start line:58% position:10% size:35%
pray with you.
00:26:52.777 --> 00:26:53.778 align:start line:58% position:10% size:35%
It's been such
00:26:53.845 --> 00:26:54.846 align:start line:58% position:10% size:50%
a good conversation.
00:26:54.913 --> 00:26:55.914 align:start line:58% position:10% size:30%
TAMMY: It is
00:26:55.981 --> 00:26:56.982 align:start line:58% position:10% size:50%
a good conversation!
00:26:57.048 --> 00:26:58.083 align:start line:58% position:10% size:55%
Jon, thank you so much
00:26:58.149 --> 00:26:59.150 align:start line:58% position:10% size:35%
for being here
00:26:59.217 --> 00:27:00.218 align:start line:58% position:10% size:48%
and for confessing.
00:27:00.285 --> 00:27:01.286 align:start line:58% position:10% size:40%
I love the book.
00:27:01.353 --> 00:27:02.387 align:start line:58% position:10% size:63%
Where can people find it?
00:27:02.454 --> 00:27:03.488 align:start line:58% position:10% size:60%
Where can they find you?
00:27:03.555 --> 00:27:04.556 align:start line:58% position:10% size:38%
JON: Yeah, that
00:27:04.622 --> 00:27:05.623 align:start line:58% position:10% size:45%
confessing aspect,
00:27:05.690 --> 00:27:06.691 align:start line:58% position:10% size:58%
there's four steps that
00:27:06.758 --> 00:27:07.792 align:start line:58% position:10% size:50%
I took to break free
00:27:07.859 --> 00:27:08.893 align:start line:58% position:10% size:58%
and that's one of them.
00:27:08.960 --> 00:27:10.295 align:start line:58% position:10% size:53%
So they can go to see
00:27:10.362 --> 00:27:11.396 align:start line:58% position:10% size:60%
the book and the podcast
00:27:11.463 --> 00:27:12.464 align:start line:58% position:10% size:48%
and all that stuff.
00:27:12.530 --> 00:27:13.531 align:start line:58% position:10% size:35%
They can go to
00:27:13.598 --> 00:27:14.599 align:start line:58% position:10% size:58%
ChristianAlcoholic.com.
00:27:14.666 --> 00:27:15.667 align:start line:58% position:10% size:55%
ChristianAlcoholic.com
00:27:15.734 --> 00:27:17.535 align:start line:58% position:10% size:33%
made it easy.
00:27:17.602 --> 00:27:18.636 align:start line:58% position:10% size:60%
TAMMY: So you're at home
00:27:18.703 --> 00:27:19.704 align:start line:58% position:10% size:63%
privately, like googling.
00:27:19.771 --> 00:27:20.772 align:start line:58% position:10% size:25%
I love it!
00:27:20.839 --> 00:27:21.940 align:start line:58% position:10% size:55%
You've been a blessing
00:27:22.007 --> 00:27:23.008 align:start line:58% position:10% size:30%
to us today.
00:27:23.074 --> 00:27:24.175 align:start line:58% position:10% size:43%
Thank you so much
00:27:24.242 --> 00:27:25.243 align:start line:58% position:10% size:38%
for being here.
00:27:25.310 --> 00:27:26.911 align:start line:58% position:10% size:73%
And thank you for being here.
00:27:26.978 --> 00:27:28.079 align:start line:58% position:10% size:58%
We'll see you next time
00:27:28.146 --> 00:27:29.714 align:start line:58% position:10% size:35%
on Life Today.
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♪
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♪
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>> He is faithful
if you'll wait on God.
00:28:05.683 --> 00:28:09.621 align:center line:63% position:50% size:65%
He is faithful to counsel,
to comfort, to lead,
00:28:09.687 --> 00:28:12.524 align:center line:63% position:50% size:55%
and to remind you
of the words of Jesus.
00:28:12.590 --> 00:28:16.061 align:start line:10% position:13% size:73%
LIFE Today is made
possible by the supporters of
LIFE Outreach International.
00:28:16.127 --> 00:28:19.164 align:center line:10% position:50% size:70%
Your gift will be
used exclusively for
the exempt purposes of LIFE.
00:28:19.230 --> 00:28:21.232 align:start line:10% position:23% size:53%
The ministry features
specific outreaches
00:28:21.299 --> 00:28:23.301 align:center line:10% position:50% size:68%
as examples of the programs
it supports and conducts.
00:28:23.368 --> 00:28:25.370 align:start line:10% position:18% size:63%
Gifts are considered
to be without restriction
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as to use unless explicitly
stipulated by the donor.
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The ministry is a member
of the ECFA.