WEBVTT NOTE This file was exported by MacCaption version 7.0.11 to comply with the WebVTT specification dated March 23, 2013. 00:00:00.734 --> 00:00:02.936 align:start line:79% position:44% size:78% male announcer: The following program is sponsored by friends 00:00:02.936 --> 00:00:04.938 align:start line:85% position:44% size:78% of Life Outreach International. 00:00:06.874 --> 00:00:09.476 align:start line:63% position:46% size:68% Mark Moore: I think there's an inverse ratio to wisdom 00:00:09.476 --> 00:00:11.411 align:start line:69% position:50% size:41% and information. 00:00:11.411 --> 00:00:15.482 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% And the more information we have, the less wisdom we have. 00:00:15.482 --> 00:00:18.685 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% And with the advent of AI, it's about to get a whole lot worse. 00:00:18.685 --> 00:00:21.588 align:start line:63% position:50% size:70% I think this is so timely because it is about to get a 00:00:21.588 --> 00:00:22.956 align:start line:69% position:50% size:41% whole lot worse. 00:00:22.956 --> 00:00:26.727 align:start line:63% position:50% size:61% People are searching for this kind of wisdom. 00:00:26.727 --> 00:00:29.897 align:start line:63% position:45% size:73% announcer: Mark Moore has identified 52 areas of wisdom 00:00:29.897 --> 00:00:33.500 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% that cultivate meaningful habits and virtues in a world 00:00:33.500 --> 00:00:35.502 align:start line:69% position:46% size:68% filled with cultural chaos. 00:00:35.502 --> 00:00:45.512 align:start line:85% position:48% size:18% [music] 00:00:45.512 --> 00:00:53.921 align:start line:85% position:48% size:18% [music] 00:00:53.921 --> 00:00:55.255 align:start line:63% position:50% size:61% Randy Robison: Welcome to "Life Today." 00:00:55.255 --> 00:00:56.590 align:start line:63% position:47% size:58% I'm Randy Robison. Great to have you here. 00:00:56.590 --> 00:00:58.425 align:start line:69% position:45% size:73% Blynda Lane is with me today. 00:00:58.425 --> 00:00:59.960 align:start line:63% position:50% size:56% It's great to have you on the set. 00:00:59.960 --> 00:01:01.361 align:start line:63% position:48% size:48% Blynda Lane: Thanks for having me. 00:01:01.361 --> 00:01:03.363 align:start line:63% position:45% size:73% It's a real honor to be here. I have a lot of fun with you. 00:01:03.363 --> 00:01:04.831 align:start line:63% position:50% size:45% Randy: Well, good. I hope so. 00:01:04.831 --> 00:01:07.000 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% You and Tammy have done a great job, and so I'm glad to be able 00:01:07.000 --> 00:01:08.468 align:start line:69% position:47% size:53% to sit down with you. 00:01:08.468 --> 00:01:11.171 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% We also have a wonderful guest with us today, and I know that 00:01:11.171 --> 00:01:15.809 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% you are going to learn a lot and be inspired, because our guest, 00:01:15.809 --> 00:01:22.215 align:start line:63% position:45% size:73% Mark Moore, has a book called "Wisdom 52" that is out now, 00:01:22.215 --> 00:01:23.550 align:start line:69% position:50% size:35% just came out. 00:01:23.550 --> 00:01:26.787 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% And many of you have read "Core 52," so if you know that one 00:01:26.787 --> 00:01:28.155 align:start line:69% position:46% size:68% you're gonna be interested. 00:01:28.155 --> 00:01:29.489 align:start line:69% position:50% size:45% But Mark joins us. 00:01:29.489 --> 00:01:30.857 align:start line:69% position:50% size:75% Mark, welcome to "Life Today." 00:01:30.857 --> 00:01:32.759 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% Mark Moore: It's an honor to be here with you guys, both of you. 00:01:32.759 --> 00:01:34.094 align:start line:69% position:50% size:61% Thank you for having me. 00:01:34.094 --> 00:01:35.429 align:start line:69% position:50% size:65% Randy: So, jump into this. 00:01:35.429 --> 00:01:38.098 align:start line:63% position:45% size:73% So people that don't know the "Core 52" or the "Wisdom 52," 00:01:38.098 --> 00:01:41.969 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% they're like, what's the number thing here? 00:01:41.969 --> 00:01:43.603 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% What do you--frame this up, what you're talking about. 00:01:43.603 --> 00:01:46.840 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% Mark: Well, I work at a church in Phoenix, Arizona, and we have 00:01:46.840 --> 00:01:49.509 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% a lot of people come who aren't familiar with the Bible, so 00:01:49.509 --> 00:01:51.044 align:start line:69% position:50% size:65% that's where Core started. 00:01:51.044 --> 00:01:52.646 align:start line:63% position:50% size:45% They just needed to know the Bible. 00:01:52.646 --> 00:01:56.416 align:start line:63% position:50% size:70% So I thought if I could give them one verse per week, 00:01:56.416 --> 00:01:58.118 align:start line:69% position:50% size:41% 52 weeks a year. 00:01:58.118 --> 00:01:59.453 align:start line:69% position:50% size:50% Randy: There you go. 00:01:59.453 --> 00:02:01.221 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% Mark: So it's kind of, it's been helpful for churches to even go 00:02:01.221 --> 00:02:04.558 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% through it with a series, and it allows people to really get a 00:02:04.558 --> 00:02:07.728 align:start line:63% position:45% size:73% handle week by week, get into the Word of God in a way 00:02:07.728 --> 00:02:09.930 align:start line:69% position:48% size:43% that's practical. 00:02:09.930 --> 00:02:11.999 align:start line:63% position:48% size:48% We need to know how to live this stuff. 00:02:11.999 --> 00:02:14.067 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% Blynda: And I love it because--it's funny because when 00:02:14.067 --> 00:02:17.537 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% I heard "Wisdom 52" and I'm thinking, "Well, there's only 31 00:02:17.537 --> 00:02:19.106 align:start line:69% position:50% size:45% books in Proverbs. 00:02:19.106 --> 00:02:20.474 align:start line:69% position:48% size:38% What's the 52?" 00:02:20.474 --> 00:02:23.176 align:start line:63% position:50% size:70% And then when I realized, oh yeah, you're gonna take them 00:02:23.176 --> 00:02:24.544 align:start line:69% position:48% size:33% week by week. 00:02:24.544 --> 00:02:26.313 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% And it's kind of a culmination of a lot of the Proverbs 00:02:26.313 --> 00:02:27.647 align:start line:69% position:50% size:25% each time. 00:02:27.647 --> 00:02:29.383 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% You're not just focusing on one every time. 00:02:29.383 --> 00:02:33.920 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% What I found fascinating though is just the idea that you took a 00:02:33.920 --> 00:02:39.893 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% book of wisdom and applied it to a culture that probably doesn't 00:02:39.893 --> 00:02:43.697 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% actually think living by a book of wisdom is that important. 00:02:43.697 --> 00:02:45.832 align:start line:63% position:48% size:48% We kind of come up with our own truth. 00:02:45.832 --> 00:02:48.301 align:start line:69% position:47% size:58% We dictate our own way. 00:02:48.301 --> 00:02:51.905 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% So when you wanted to--after "Core 52," what made you want to 00:02:51.905 --> 00:02:55.475 align:start line:63% position:45% size:73% write a book about the wisdom literature of the Bible? 00:02:55.475 --> 00:02:57.644 align:start line:63% position:50% size:70% Mark: Yeah, and originally I didn't have a plan to do 00:02:57.644 --> 00:02:59.479 align:start line:69% position:48% size:23% 52 weeks. 00:02:59.479 --> 00:03:03.717 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% This book started 25 years ago when a friend of mine confronted 00:03:03.717 --> 00:03:07.454 align:start line:69% position:50% size:75% me and said, "You're a gossip. 00:03:07.454 --> 00:03:09.423 align:start line:69% position:50% size:56% It's not a good look." 00:03:09.423 --> 00:03:10.757 align:start line:69% position:47% size:58% But I couldn't deny it. 00:03:10.757 --> 00:03:15.829 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% I was using my words to artificially build myself up by 00:03:15.829 --> 00:03:17.497 align:start line:69% position:50% size:65% tearing other people down. 00:03:17.497 --> 00:03:19.966 align:start line:63% position:45% size:73% And you can do it with like, "this is a prayer request" or 00:03:19.966 --> 00:03:21.568 align:start line:69% position:50% size:65% however you articulate it. 00:03:21.568 --> 00:03:22.969 align:start line:63% position:47% size:58% I thought I was fooling everybody. 00:03:22.969 --> 00:03:24.337 align:start line:69% position:47% size:53% I was fooling no one. 00:03:24.337 --> 00:03:26.339 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% And so I had to look in the mirror and say, "You know what, 00:03:26.339 --> 00:03:27.974 align:start line:69% position:50% size:35% I am a gossip. 00:03:27.974 --> 00:03:30.177 align:start line:63% position:50% size:41% And I don't want to be a gossip." 00:03:30.177 --> 00:03:31.711 align:start line:69% position:50% size:56% So I went to Proverbs. 00:03:31.711 --> 00:03:35.715 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% I read every verse in Proverbs on taming the tongue, and it 00:03:35.715 --> 00:03:37.050 align:start line:69% position:50% size:25% healed me. 00:03:37.050 --> 00:03:41.354 align:start line:63% position:50% size:61% The practical wisdom of here's what's happening. 00:03:41.354 --> 00:03:44.124 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% And it took me probably two years to dig into it because I 00:03:44.124 --> 00:03:47.427 align:start line:63% position:50% size:50% had to think, "Okay, why am I gossiping?" 00:03:47.427 --> 00:03:50.097 align:start line:69% position:45% size:73% It wasn't because I was mean. 00:03:50.097 --> 00:03:52.099 align:start line:69% position:50% size:75% It was because I was insecure. 00:03:52.099 --> 00:03:55.936 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% And I didn't feel like I could validly lift myself up, so I 00:03:55.936 --> 00:03:59.506 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% would artificially tear someone else down. 00:03:59.506 --> 00:04:05.445 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% For me, gossip was the same sin as bragging, because bragging, 00:04:05.445 --> 00:04:09.382 align:start line:63% position:50% size:70% again, artificially building yourself up, gossip is 00:04:09.382 --> 00:04:11.685 align:start line:63% position:50% size:70% artificially tearing someone else down. 00:04:11.685 --> 00:04:14.421 align:start line:63% position:50% size:70% It's also, for me it was the same as flattery. 00:04:14.421 --> 00:04:17.557 align:start line:63% position:45% size:73% And this was, because encouraging someone else is a 00:04:17.557 --> 00:04:18.892 align:start line:69% position:50% size:45% good thing, right? 00:04:18.892 --> 00:04:21.428 align:start line:63% position:45% size:73% You know, you look good today or man, you're smart or-- 00:04:21.428 --> 00:04:25.532 align:start line:63% position:46% size:68% But I found that I was only flattering people above me 00:04:25.532 --> 00:04:28.902 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% because I wanted them to think more of me and lift me up. 00:04:28.902 --> 00:04:34.007 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% And so as I examined really the wisdom of Solomon around words, 00:04:34.007 --> 00:04:35.375 align:start line:69% position:50% size:41% I found healing. 00:04:35.375 --> 00:04:38.211 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% I'm still not perfect, but I found a lot of healing in that. 00:04:38.211 --> 00:04:42.816 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% I thought, someday I'm gonna go through every single Proverb and 00:04:42.816 --> 00:04:46.419 align:start line:63% position:50% size:70% categorize them in ways that would be helpful for healing 00:04:46.419 --> 00:04:47.754 align:start line:69% position:50% size:21% in life. 00:04:47.754 --> 00:04:49.589 align:start line:63% position:48% size:48% Randy: I have actually done that. 00:04:49.589 --> 00:04:52.692 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% I've gone through the entire book of Proverbs and categorized 00:04:52.692 --> 00:04:54.027 align:start line:69% position:48% size:23% them all. 00:04:54.027 --> 00:04:55.395 align:start line:69% position:48% size:38% And here's why. 00:04:55.395 --> 00:04:56.730 align:start line:69% position:50% size:41% So most people-- 00:04:56.730 --> 00:04:58.231 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% Mark: You're the only one I've ever met that did that. 00:04:58.231 --> 00:05:00.600 align:start line:63% position:50% size:61% Randy: I've got--I can show you my work, right? 00:05:00.600 --> 00:05:01.968 align:start line:69% position:50% size:41% Mark: Please do. 00:05:01.968 --> 00:05:03.303 align:start line:63% position:50% size:45% Blynda: That's why he's so wise. 00:05:03.303 --> 00:05:04.671 align:start line:63% position:47% size:53% Randy: No, you've done it, too, though. 00:05:04.671 --> 00:05:06.473 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% But here's why it's beneficial to do that, I think, and tell me 00:05:06.473 --> 00:05:10.310 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% if you experienced this, because Proverbs is a collection of 00:05:10.310 --> 00:05:13.813 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% wisdom, of sayings, and it's repetitive because you'll find 00:05:13.813 --> 00:05:16.650 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% the same thing here and you'll find it ten chapters later. 00:05:16.650 --> 00:05:21.655 align:start line:63% position:45% size:73% And so it's by nature kind of disorganized, and it'll jump 00:05:21.655 --> 00:05:23.990 align:start line:63% position:48% size:48% from one thought to another thought. 00:05:23.990 --> 00:05:26.560 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% So when you go through and you go, okay, everything related to 00:05:26.560 --> 00:05:30.163 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% flattery or something, or in the Randy version, don't toot your 00:05:30.163 --> 00:05:31.898 align:start line:63% position:50% size:61% own horn, like that's in Proverbs, right? 00:05:31.898 --> 00:05:33.600 align:start line:69% position:48% size:23% You know. 00:05:33.600 --> 00:05:37.204 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% What did you find when you started putting them into very 00:05:37.204 --> 00:05:40.707 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% practical, which is what you do in the book, very practical, 00:05:40.707 --> 00:05:44.511 align:start line:63% position:46% size:68% here's how to live that out sort of ideas? 00:05:44.511 --> 00:05:47.480 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% Mark: It was really helpful for me to do the categories. 00:05:47.480 --> 00:05:50.183 align:start line:63% position:50% size:50% I also then ran each category backwards 00:05:50.183 --> 00:05:51.918 align:start line:63% position:47% size:53% through the rest of the Old Testament, 00:05:51.918 --> 00:05:53.620 align:start line:63% position:46% size:68% forward through the rest of the New Testament. 00:05:53.620 --> 00:05:55.222 align:start line:63% position:47% size:63% Randy: Oh, wow, you did tons of work on this one. 00:05:55.222 --> 00:05:57.290 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% Mark: Yeah, so in the book you're gonna--you're basically 00:05:57.290 --> 00:06:02.362 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% gonna get with each chapter a whole Bible theology on gossip, 00:06:02.362 --> 00:06:08.068 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% on flattery, on encouragement, on sexuality, on pride. 00:06:08.068 --> 00:06:11.972 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% And what I saw then was how this isn't Solomon's wisdom, this is 00:06:11.972 --> 00:06:15.442 align:start line:63% position:47% size:53% actually God's wisdom through Solomon. 00:06:15.442 --> 00:06:17.978 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% Another big thing that I learned, and this is kind of a 00:06:17.978 --> 00:06:22.182 align:start line:63% position:45% size:73% tangent, but I thought, okay, Sol--I hadn't noticed 00:06:22.182 --> 00:06:23.516 align:start line:69% position:50% size:31% this before. 00:06:23.516 --> 00:06:26.319 align:start line:63% position:50% size:50% Proverbs was written to "my son." 00:06:26.319 --> 00:06:28.288 align:start line:69% position:47% size:63% Now he had multiple sons. 00:06:28.288 --> 00:06:32.192 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% Three times it says "my sons," plural, but over 20 times, 00:06:32.192 --> 00:06:33.560 align:start line:69% position:48% size:23% "my son." 00:06:33.560 --> 00:06:34.894 align:start line:69% position:48% size:43% Who was that son? 00:06:34.894 --> 00:06:36.263 align:start line:69% position:50% size:41% It was Rehoboam. 00:06:36.263 --> 00:06:37.797 align:start line:63% position:47% size:53% He's the one who took over the throne. 00:06:37.797 --> 00:06:40.967 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% And yet the first thing he does, taking over the throne, is to 00:06:40.967 --> 00:06:42.435 align:start line:69% position:50% size:50% destroy the kingdom. 00:06:42.435 --> 00:06:47.173 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% So my question was, how could Solomon be so wise and his son 00:06:47.173 --> 00:06:49.376 align:start line:69% position:50% size:35% be so foolish? 00:06:49.376 --> 00:06:52.946 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% Because wisdom from your father, you don't get wisdom from what 00:06:52.946 --> 00:06:55.815 align:start line:63% position:47% size:58% he says, you get wisdom from what he does. 00:06:55.815 --> 00:06:59.619 align:start line:63% position:47% size:53% And so immediately I had to think about, 00:06:59.619 --> 00:07:03.323 align:start line:63% position:50% size:56% so how can we then-- how can we help people 00:07:03.323 --> 00:07:04.991 align:start line:69% position:47% size:58% apply these principles? 00:07:04.991 --> 00:07:08.695 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% Not just know that pithy aphorism, "Raise up a child in 00:07:08.695 --> 00:07:10.864 align:start line:63% position:45% size:73% the way it should go and when he's older he will not depart 00:07:10.864 --> 00:07:12.232 align:start line:69% position:48% size:23% from it." 00:07:12.232 --> 00:07:13.566 align:start line:69% position:48% size:48% Okay, that's great. 00:07:13.566 --> 00:07:14.934 align:start line:69% position:48% size:48% How do you do that? 00:07:14.934 --> 00:07:17.203 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% So I started thinking through the Proverbs, through the rest 00:07:17.203 --> 00:07:18.805 align:start line:63% position:47% size:53% of the Old Testament, New Testament. 00:07:18.805 --> 00:07:22.676 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% Who are the people that lived these positive attributes, and 00:07:22.676 --> 00:07:24.744 align:start line:69% position:50% size:65% what did they actually do? 00:07:24.744 --> 00:07:28.815 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% Not theory, what did they do to carry this out? 00:07:28.815 --> 00:07:31.184 align:start line:63% position:50% size:70% Blynda: It's so interesting, because one of my favorite 00:07:31.184 --> 00:07:33.019 align:start line:63% position:50% size:70% Proverbs is "The fear of the Lord is the beginning of 00:07:33.019 --> 00:07:36.890 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% wisdom," and I feel like even thinking about Rehoboam, and I 00:07:36.890 --> 00:07:40.327 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% think even about Solomon, the end of his life, I'm like, where 00:07:40.327 --> 00:07:43.163 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% was the guy who--he's the guy that knew all this and then he 00:07:43.163 --> 00:07:44.597 align:start line:69% position:47% size:58% didn't even live by it. 00:07:44.597 --> 00:07:47.534 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% And it makes me wonder how much of that is when you lose the 00:07:47.534 --> 00:07:52.072 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% fear of the Lord, you no longer can live by wisdom. 00:07:52.072 --> 00:07:54.140 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% Mark: It's interesting you say that because I've thought deeply 00:07:54.140 --> 00:07:56.276 align:start line:63% position:48% size:43% about Solomon's political career. 00:07:56.276 --> 00:07:59.913 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% His prayer to God was not wisdom for his family. 00:07:59.913 --> 00:08:01.948 align:start line:69% position:45% size:73% It was wisdom for the nation. 00:08:01.948 --> 00:08:04.918 align:start line:63% position:50% size:70% And everything he did in his political life was blessed 00:08:04.918 --> 00:08:06.286 align:start line:69% position:48% size:18% by God. 00:08:06.286 --> 00:08:09.322 align:start line:63% position:45% size:73% His wisdom made him a great politician, but being a great 00:08:09.322 --> 00:08:11.758 align:start line:63% position:45% size:73% politician doesn't make you a great parent. 00:08:11.758 --> 00:08:16.563 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% And in fact, if you trace the trajectory back, why was Solomon 00:08:16.563 --> 00:08:17.931 align:start line:69% position:50% size:45% not a good father? 00:08:17.931 --> 00:08:20.567 align:start line:63% position:50% size:61% Well, because his father was a terrible father. 00:08:20.567 --> 00:08:24.070 align:start line:63% position:47% size:58% King David failed every one of his children. 00:08:24.070 --> 00:08:26.773 align:start line:63% position:50% size:65% Solomon was actually the fourth child of Bathsheba, 00:08:26.773 --> 00:08:28.141 align:start line:69% position:50% size:35% not the first. 00:08:28.141 --> 00:08:32.545 align:start line:63% position:50% size:70% So this is, he is a--why is David a failure as a father? 00:08:32.545 --> 00:08:34.280 align:start line:69% position:46% size:68% Well, you go back to Jesse. 00:08:34.280 --> 00:08:38.485 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% When Samuel comes and wants to anoint David as king, Jesse has 00:08:38.485 --> 00:08:41.755 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% him out in the field, and Samuel has to ask if you have 00:08:41.755 --> 00:08:43.123 align:start line:69% position:50% size:31% another son. 00:08:43.123 --> 00:08:47.961 align:start line:63% position:45% size:73% So the father wound is one of the great barriers of wisdom. 00:08:47.961 --> 00:08:49.295 align:start line:69% position:50% size:31% Blynda: Wow. 00:08:49.295 --> 00:08:50.663 align:start line:69% position:48% size:48% Randy: Interesting. 00:08:50.663 --> 00:08:51.998 align:start line:63% position:48% size:48% Blynda: That's really interesting. 00:08:51.998 --> 00:08:53.366 align:start line:63% position:45% size:73% Randy: All right, so you talk about some things you've 00:08:53.366 --> 00:08:55.335 align:start line:63% position:47% size:53% mentioned, the pride, the flattery. 00:08:55.335 --> 00:08:56.669 align:start line:69% position:47% size:53% You talk about anger. 00:08:56.669 --> 00:08:59.372 align:start line:69% position:50% size:65% You talk about quarreling. 00:08:59.372 --> 00:09:03.076 align:start line:63% position:45% size:73% There's--I wanna make sure we hit both of these, because 00:09:03.076 --> 00:09:05.712 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% Proverbs are full of warnings, but they're also full 00:09:05.712 --> 00:09:07.080 align:start line:69% position:50% size:31% of promises. 00:09:07.080 --> 00:09:09.849 align:start line:63% position:45% size:73% But tell me about some of the warnings that you see that we 00:09:09.849 --> 00:09:13.186 align:start line:69% position:44% size:78% really should pay attention to. 00:09:13.186 --> 00:09:16.589 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% Mark: Pride is the biggest one, because pride is the mother of 00:09:16.589 --> 00:09:17.957 align:start line:69% position:48% size:23% all sins. 00:09:17.957 --> 00:09:19.292 align:start line:69% position:50% size:65% It's the root of all sins. 00:09:19.292 --> 00:09:23.663 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% And Proverbs introduces this idea that really Jesus modeled, 00:09:23.663 --> 00:09:27.100 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% that--it's a reversal concept, that those who exalt themselves 00:09:27.100 --> 00:09:28.968 align:start line:63% position:50% size:65% will be humbled, those who humble themselves will 00:09:28.968 --> 00:09:30.303 align:start line:69% position:48% size:28% be exalted. 00:09:30.303 --> 00:09:33.206 align:start line:69% position:50% size:75% Quick story, my own biography. 00:09:33.206 --> 00:09:37.644 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% It took me probably into my forties before I had confidence 00:09:37.644 --> 00:09:39.546 align:start line:69% position:47% size:63% in who I was as a person. 00:09:39.546 --> 00:09:42.549 align:start line:63% position:45% size:73% That's why I was a gossip, that's why I was a slanderer. 00:09:42.549 --> 00:09:45.084 align:start line:63% position:48% size:48% It's because I was not sure who I was. 00:09:45.084 --> 00:09:47.954 align:start line:63% position:50% size:61% When I learned--and this is the fear of the Lord. 00:09:47.954 --> 00:09:51.858 align:start line:63% position:46% size:68% When you fear God and you get your identity from him, 00:09:51.858 --> 00:09:54.360 align:start line:63% position:50% size:50% you don't fear other people's opinions. 00:09:54.360 --> 00:09:58.598 align:start line:63% position:45% size:73% So to me, that was the core identity of finding out who I 00:09:58.598 --> 00:10:02.836 align:start line:63% position:50% size:65% was, so I didn't have to artificially exalt myself. 00:10:02.836 --> 00:10:07.407 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% How that manifested was not just in gossip but in my preaching. 00:10:07.407 --> 00:10:11.744 align:start line:63% position:45% size:73% I was the hero of every story I told about myself until 00:10:11.744 --> 00:10:14.180 align:start line:69% position:50% size:35% probably 2014. 00:10:14.180 --> 00:10:18.685 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% At that point, with some great teamwork at our church, I began 00:10:18.685 --> 00:10:21.855 align:start line:63% position:50% size:65% exploring self-deprecation in sermons. 00:10:21.855 --> 00:10:23.223 align:start line:69% position:50% size:61% Weirdest thing happened. 00:10:23.223 --> 00:10:25.058 align:start line:69% position:50% size:56% And I have a new rule. 00:10:25.058 --> 00:10:28.127 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% If I wrote my own book of Proverbs, this would be in it. 00:10:28.127 --> 00:10:30.864 align:start line:63% position:50% size:56% If you praise yourself publicly, you will be 00:10:30.864 --> 00:10:32.465 align:start line:69% position:47% size:53% criticized privately. 00:10:32.465 --> 00:10:35.468 align:start line:63% position:47% size:63% If you criticize yourself publicly, you will be 00:10:35.468 --> 00:10:37.303 align:start line:69% position:50% size:45% praised privately. 00:10:37.303 --> 00:10:39.606 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% And the book of Proverbs is full of those kinds of 00:10:39.606 --> 00:10:40.940 align:start line:69% position:48% size:48% practical warnings. 00:10:40.940 --> 00:10:42.275 align:start line:69% position:48% size:48% Pride is a big one. 00:10:42.275 --> 00:10:44.444 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% Randy: Okay, so give me some of the positives, because there's 00:10:44.444 --> 00:10:46.880 align:start line:69% position:46% size:68% also good news in Proverbs. 00:10:46.880 --> 00:10:51.651 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% What's some of the wisdom we can apply that is not just stay away 00:10:51.651 --> 00:10:54.120 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% from the bad, but here's how to develop the good? 00:10:54.120 --> 00:11:00.326 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% Mark: Yeah, I think generosity is one of the big things. 00:11:00.326 --> 00:11:03.897 align:start line:63% position:47% size:63% Worship of God is another one of the big things. 00:11:03.897 --> 00:11:08.201 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% Valuing your spouse is another one of the big things. 00:11:08.201 --> 00:11:11.004 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% And I had an ah-ha moment with this in the editing process, 00:11:11.004 --> 00:11:13.373 align:start line:69% position:50% size:56% you know, Proverbs 31. 00:11:13.373 --> 00:11:17.110 align:start line:63% position:50% size:61% I mean, what a woman. It's this kind of woman. 00:11:17.110 --> 00:11:20.513 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% Blynda: It seems a somewhat unattainable woman, by the way. 00:11:20.513 --> 00:11:23.783 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% Mark: So I made a comment that isn't it interesting that 00:11:23.783 --> 00:11:28.454 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% Solomon had such a diversity of opinions about women, because 00:11:28.454 --> 00:11:32.292 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% the most common complaint in Proverbs, the most repetitive, 00:11:32.292 --> 00:11:35.728 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% is, "It is better to live on the corner of a roof than in a house 00:11:35.728 --> 00:11:37.297 align:start line:69% position:47% size:53% with an angry woman." 00:11:37.297 --> 00:11:40.033 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% Though true, Solomon had a lot of experience, because he had a 00:11:40.033 --> 00:11:42.735 align:start line:63% position:48% size:48% lot of women and a lot of angry women. 00:11:42.735 --> 00:11:46.139 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% So, I made this comment on his diversity of opinion and the 00:11:46.139 --> 00:11:49.475 align:start line:63% position:46% size:68% editor corrected me, said Proverbs 31 was not written 00:11:49.475 --> 00:11:50.810 align:start line:69% position:48% size:28% by Solomon. 00:11:50.810 --> 00:11:53.980 align:start line:63% position:47% size:53% It was written by King Lemuel's mother, 00:11:53.980 --> 00:11:55.315 align:start line:69% position:50% size:65% which, I played with this. 00:11:55.315 --> 00:11:57.584 align:start line:63% position:48% size:48% I can't prove this. I think it's true. 00:11:57.584 --> 00:12:00.587 align:start line:63% position:47% size:53% Solomon's wives were mostly marriages 00:12:00.587 --> 00:12:02.789 align:start line:69% position:44% size:78% for political alliances, right? 00:12:02.789 --> 00:12:07.493 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% I think King Lemuel gave one of Solomon's--gave him one of 00:12:07.493 --> 00:12:08.861 align:start line:69% position:50% size:25% his wives. 00:12:08.861 --> 00:12:12.899 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% So King Lemuel's mother would be Solomon's grandmother-in-law. 00:12:12.899 --> 00:12:14.233 align:start line:69% position:50% size:50% Blynda: Interesting. 00:12:14.233 --> 00:12:16.235 align:start line:63% position:48% size:48% Mark: So here's what fascinated me. 00:12:16.235 --> 00:12:19.105 align:start line:63% position:50% size:65% Solomon does have a couple of beautiful things to say 00:12:19.105 --> 00:12:20.440 align:start line:69% position:50% size:31% about women. 00:12:20.440 --> 00:12:23.276 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% One of them is the dedication to my own wife in the book. 00:12:23.276 --> 00:12:28.114 align:start line:63% position:45% size:73% If you find a noble wife, you find a beautiful thing. 00:12:28.114 --> 00:12:32.085 align:start line:63% position:45% size:73% But most of what Solomon said was negative about women. 00:12:32.085 --> 00:12:37.590 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% Could it be that the more women you have, the less you think of 00:12:37.590 --> 00:12:39.626 align:start line:69% position:48% size:48% the women you have? 00:12:39.626 --> 00:12:44.297 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% And so, part of the positive of valuing the woman you have is 00:12:44.297 --> 00:12:48.067 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% being loyal to her and finding the prize that God has 00:12:48.067 --> 00:12:49.435 align:start line:69% position:50% size:25% given you. 00:12:49.435 --> 00:12:50.770 align:start line:69% position:46% size:68% Blynda: That's really good. 00:12:50.770 --> 00:12:52.138 align:start line:69% position:50% size:70% Randy: Yeah, that'll preach. 00:12:52.138 --> 00:12:53.473 align:start line:69% position:47% size:63% Blynda: That will preach. 00:12:53.473 --> 00:12:56.709 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% Okay, so when you were talking about, you had this revelation 00:12:56.709 --> 00:12:59.345 align:start line:63% position:46% size:68% of kind of the man that you were, and you wanted to 00:12:59.345 --> 00:13:00.980 align:start line:69% position:48% size:33% be different. 00:13:00.980 --> 00:13:03.316 align:start line:63% position:50% size:61% Did you have people come alongside you and call 00:13:03.316 --> 00:13:04.684 align:start line:69% position:48% size:28% you higher? 00:13:04.684 --> 00:13:07.520 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% Is there an idea of how important mentoring and having 00:13:07.520 --> 00:13:10.256 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% people around you when you were writing this book? 00:13:10.256 --> 00:13:13.960 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% I feel like that would be a theme also in the Proverbs, of 00:13:13.960 --> 00:13:16.329 align:start line:63% position:46% size:68% how important it is who you surround yourself with. 00:13:16.329 --> 00:13:19.298 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% Mark: Yeah, Solomon will later say in Ecclesiastes, cord of 00:13:19.298 --> 00:13:20.633 align:start line:69% position:50% size:35% three strands. 00:13:20.633 --> 00:13:24.103 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% There are a couple of chapters about mentoring, about parents, 00:13:24.103 --> 00:13:26.172 align:start line:69% position:50% size:56% about wise counselors. 00:13:26.172 --> 00:13:31.344 align:start line:63% position:47% size:63% In my own life, part of, I suppose part of it was, 00:13:31.344 --> 00:13:33.613 align:start line:63% position:50% size:50% I was a professor at a Bible college. 00:13:33.613 --> 00:13:35.448 align:start line:69% position:47% size:58% Nobody confronts those. 00:13:35.448 --> 00:13:37.150 align:start line:69% position:50% size:81% Nobody confronts senior pastors. 00:13:37.150 --> 00:13:39.552 align:start line:63% position:47% size:53% Nobody confronts doctors or policemen. 00:13:39.552 --> 00:13:43.456 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% Those are roles that you're always the expert, so I had to 00:13:43.456 --> 00:13:46.559 align:start line:69% position:50% size:50% learn to ask for it. 00:13:46.559 --> 00:13:51.397 align:start line:63% position:50% size:70% And Proverbs does give some really powerful advice about 00:13:51.397 --> 00:13:55.902 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% pulling into your inner circle those who are wise, and knowing 00:13:55.902 --> 00:13:58.738 align:start line:69% position:44% size:78% what a wise person actually is. 00:13:58.738 --> 00:14:02.875 align:start line:63% position:45% size:73% So it's almost like Proverbs provides you a biography or a 00:14:02.875 --> 00:14:07.447 align:start line:63% position:45% size:73% portfolio, a portrait, of the kind of wise people that you 00:14:07.447 --> 00:14:08.815 align:start line:69% position:50% size:65% want to have in your life. 00:14:08.815 --> 00:14:12.585 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% But to answer your question, I had to get over my own pride to 00:14:12.585 --> 00:14:14.120 align:start line:69% position:50% size:41% even ask anyone. 00:14:14.120 --> 00:14:17.290 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% After that first person confronted me, I asked him to be 00:14:17.290 --> 00:14:20.126 align:start line:63% position:50% size:50% in an accountability relationship. 00:14:20.126 --> 00:14:24.030 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% That couple became five of us, and then when I moved, I started 00:14:24.030 --> 00:14:28.935 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% it over again in Phoenix, because I am only as good as the 00:14:28.935 --> 00:14:31.537 align:start line:63% position:50% size:45% average of my five closest friends. 00:14:31.537 --> 00:14:33.339 align:start line:69% position:50% size:65% That's true for everybody. 00:14:33.339 --> 00:14:37.376 align:start line:63% position:45% size:73% So raising the status of your inner circle is--and it won't 00:14:37.376 --> 00:14:39.545 align:start line:63% position:50% size:50% happen by accident, you have to do that. 00:14:39.545 --> 00:14:40.947 align:start line:69% position:50% size:56% Randy: Was it painful? 00:14:40.947 --> 00:14:43.850 align:start line:63% position:48% size:43% Mark: Oh, asking? Yes. 00:14:43.850 --> 00:14:45.618 align:start line:69% position:46% size:68% Admitting I needed it, yes. 00:14:45.618 --> 00:14:46.986 align:start line:69% position:50% size:56% Randy: Sticking to it? 00:14:46.986 --> 00:14:48.755 align:start line:63% position:48% size:48% Blynda: And walking it out, yeah. 00:14:48.755 --> 00:14:51.791 align:start line:63% position:48% size:48% Mark: But it wasn't near as painful 00:14:51.791 --> 00:14:54.227 align:start line:69% position:47% size:63% as living an unwise life. 00:14:54.227 --> 00:14:55.862 align:start line:69% position:46% size:68% Blynda: That's really good. 00:14:55.862 --> 00:15:00.833 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% What could somebody watching who is living for themselves, does 00:15:00.833 --> 00:15:03.936 align:start line:63% position:45% size:73% not believe that they need to live by the Scripture, by the 00:15:03.936 --> 00:15:06.405 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% wisdom that's in the book, and they've just decided to live 00:15:06.405 --> 00:15:09.742 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% their own way, decided that they know what truth is. 00:15:09.742 --> 00:15:13.513 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% Maybe even like you, has pride and doesn't really let anybody 00:15:13.513 --> 00:15:14.981 align:start line:69% position:50% size:56% speak into their life. 00:15:14.981 --> 00:15:20.787 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% How can this be detrimental to them for their future? 00:15:20.787 --> 00:15:23.156 align:start line:63% position:50% size:70% Mark: I don't know that that person exists. 00:15:23.156 --> 00:15:25.792 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% I'm sure there are people out there that live for themselves. 00:15:25.792 --> 00:15:28.394 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% But at least I'll just speak for my own life. 00:15:28.394 --> 00:15:30.930 align:start line:63% position:45% size:73% In our church, the people who come, they know they're 00:15:30.930 --> 00:15:33.199 align:start line:69% position:50% size:25% messed up. 00:15:33.199 --> 00:15:41.374 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% Maybe they won't admit it publicly, but they are craving a 00:15:41.374 --> 00:15:42.775 align:start line:69% position:50% size:35% better wisdom. 00:15:42.775 --> 00:15:47.246 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% I think there's an inverse ratio to wisdom and information. 00:15:47.246 --> 00:15:51.350 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% And the more information we have, the less wisdom we have. 00:15:51.350 --> 00:15:54.554 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% And with the advent of AI, it's about to get a whole lot worse. 00:15:54.554 --> 00:15:57.456 align:start line:63% position:50% size:70% I think this is so timely, because it is about to get a 00:15:57.456 --> 00:15:58.858 align:start line:69% position:50% size:41% whole lot worse. 00:15:58.858 --> 00:16:03.396 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% And my experience is people are feeling the pain of, "I don't 00:16:03.396 --> 00:16:04.931 align:start line:69% position:50% size:70% even know how to be married. 00:16:04.931 --> 00:16:07.700 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% I don't know how to raise this kid that I just produced. 00:16:07.700 --> 00:16:10.837 align:start line:63% position:45% size:73% I don't know how to get fired and not go off the handle. 00:16:10.837 --> 00:16:16.175 align:start line:63% position:50% size:70% I need help with anger, with controlling sexuality, and 00:16:16.175 --> 00:16:20.546 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% somehow figuring out what to do with this money that I have, or 00:16:20.546 --> 00:16:23.816 align:start line:63% position:45% size:73% how to get a job that doesn't drive me crazy and I don't 00:16:23.816 --> 00:16:25.785 align:start line:69% position:48% size:38% shoot someone." 00:16:25.785 --> 00:16:29.455 align:start line:63% position:50% size:61% People are searching for this kind of wisdom. 00:16:29.455 --> 00:16:31.891 align:start line:63% position:48% size:43% But what you said is so critical. 00:16:31.891 --> 00:16:36.329 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% If you're trying to find it on your own, you probably won't 00:16:36.329 --> 00:16:37.697 align:start line:69% position:50% size:21% find it. 00:16:37.697 --> 00:16:41.500 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% Proverbs is a group project, not an individual wisdom project. 00:16:41.500 --> 00:16:42.869 align:start line:69% position:48% size:48% Randy: That's good. 00:16:42.869 --> 00:16:45.071 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% And you know what's interesting, because Proverbs addresses this, 00:16:45.071 --> 00:16:49.041 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% we live in the information age, like you say, and so knowledge 00:16:49.041 --> 00:16:50.376 align:start line:69% position:50% size:56% is kind of everywhere. 00:16:50.376 --> 00:16:53.613 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% Like, you know, pick it up and then I can look up anything. 00:16:53.613 --> 00:16:54.947 align:start line:69% position:50% size:50% I can get knowledge. 00:16:54.947 --> 00:16:57.149 align:start line:63% position:50% size:45% And Proverbs says knowledge is good. 00:16:57.149 --> 00:16:58.951 align:start line:69% position:50% size:61% Understanding is better. 00:16:58.951 --> 00:17:01.921 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% And I think I see a lot of people struggling, "how do I use 00:17:01.921 --> 00:17:04.490 align:start line:69% position:47% size:63% this information," right? 00:17:04.490 --> 00:17:06.759 align:start line:69% position:48% size:38% But the wisdom. 00:17:06.759 --> 00:17:10.396 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% That goal of figuring out, not just understanding the 00:17:10.396 --> 00:17:13.499 align:start line:63% position:45% size:73% information, but how to apply it, how to live it. 00:17:13.499 --> 00:17:16.602 align:start line:63% position:50% size:61% And there's no amount of artificialness or fake 00:17:16.602 --> 00:17:18.337 align:start line:69% position:50% size:75% intelligence that can do that. 00:17:18.337 --> 00:17:21.908 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% It's what you're talking about, it's those things in Proverbs 00:17:21.908 --> 00:17:23.242 align:start line:69% position:48% size:43% and in Scripture. 00:17:23.242 --> 00:17:24.844 align:start line:63% position:45% size:73% Mark: You just said something that just changed my 00:17:24.844 --> 00:17:28.014 align:start line:63% position:46% size:68% perspective, because I've written this book thinking, 00:17:28.014 --> 00:17:30.283 align:start line:63% position:47% size:58% okay, this is a book, it is a book of wisdom. 00:17:30.283 --> 00:17:33.686 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% Actually the wisdom isn't in the book, it's in the people of 00:17:33.686 --> 00:17:35.054 align:start line:69% position:48% size:23% the book. 00:17:35.054 --> 00:17:38.491 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% This can take you to Proverbs, but Proverbs will always take 00:17:38.491 --> 00:17:42.428 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% you to people, people who model the fear of the Lord. 00:17:42.428 --> 00:17:45.531 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% Wisdom is not from a book, not my book, not the book 00:17:45.531 --> 00:17:46.866 align:start line:69% position:50% size:31% of Proverbs. 00:17:46.866 --> 00:17:48.467 align:start line:63% position:46% size:68% It's from the people of God who live this out. 00:17:48.467 --> 00:17:52.004 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% Randy: Well, and it's not just the information, it's putting 00:17:52.004 --> 00:17:53.406 align:start line:69% position:47% size:63% it, it's the application. 00:17:53.406 --> 00:17:55.675 align:start line:63% position:48% size:48% It's putting it in, it's living it out. 00:17:55.675 --> 00:18:00.947 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% I remember the first time that I changed the way I treated my 00:18:00.947 --> 00:18:05.318 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% wife based on something I saw in Scripture that called me out. 00:18:05.318 --> 00:18:08.587 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% And I wasn't even really aware that I was demeaning her in a 00:18:08.587 --> 00:18:12.158 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% way, not major, but just like, I'm like, "Oh." 00:18:12.158 --> 00:18:15.161 align:start line:63% position:45% size:73% And then once I realized that and saw it in Scripture, 00:18:15.161 --> 00:18:16.696 align:start line:69% position:50% size:50% I gained the wisdom. 00:18:16.696 --> 00:18:19.265 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% I said yes to God and gained the wisdom and thought, I never 00:18:19.265 --> 00:18:20.967 align:start line:69% position:50% size:50% wanna do that again. 00:18:20.967 --> 00:18:22.335 align:start line:69% position:48% size:28% Mark: Yeah. 00:18:22.335 --> 00:18:23.669 align:start line:63% position:47% size:53% Randy: And it changes the whole dynamic. 00:18:23.669 --> 00:18:25.538 align:start line:63% position:50% size:45% And that's what God's wisdom does. 00:18:25.538 --> 00:18:29.375 align:start line:63% position:45% size:73% When we put it into practice, it changes things. 00:18:29.375 --> 00:18:30.743 align:start line:69% position:48% size:43% There's one more. 00:18:30.743 --> 00:18:33.312 align:start line:63% position:50% size:61% We're out of time, but we have to hit this. 00:18:33.312 --> 00:18:37.616 align:start line:63% position:47% size:58% You mentioned it a minute ago, generosity. 00:18:37.616 --> 00:18:39.952 align:start line:69% position:50% size:70% How does that change things? 00:18:39.952 --> 00:18:45.024 align:start line:63% position:47% size:53% Mark: So, when we are not generous, we are 00:18:45.024 --> 00:18:47.326 align:start line:69% position:50% size:56% inward-focused people. 00:18:47.326 --> 00:18:51.797 align:start line:63% position:45% size:73% The gift of generosity is the gift of seeing, God has not 00:18:51.797 --> 00:18:54.300 align:start line:69% position:44% size:78% blessed me because he loves me. 00:18:54.300 --> 00:18:58.604 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% He's blessed me because he wants to love someone else through me. 00:18:58.604 --> 00:19:03.275 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% If we get the idea that we are funnels and not buckets, then 00:19:03.275 --> 00:19:07.146 align:start line:63% position:46% size:68% the joy--it is more blessed to give than receive. 00:19:07.146 --> 00:19:08.481 align:start line:69% position:50% size:31% We say that. 00:19:08.481 --> 00:19:12.184 align:start line:63% position:50% size:65% But until you experience generosity, then you don't 00:19:12.184 --> 00:19:14.820 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% really know why God gave you that money in the first place. 00:19:14.820 --> 00:19:18.357 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% And he's given us, of all people on the whole planet for all 00:19:18.357 --> 00:19:21.727 align:start line:63% position:45% size:73% human history, no one has had the opportunity 00:19:21.727 --> 00:19:23.195 align:start line:69% position:50% size:41% for generosity-- 00:19:23.195 --> 00:19:24.563 align:start line:69% position:50% size:41% One quick thing. 00:19:24.563 --> 00:19:26.432 align:start line:63% position:47% size:63% I think God gives different spiritual gifts 00:19:26.432 --> 00:19:27.800 align:start line:69% position:50% size:50% to different people. 00:19:27.800 --> 00:19:29.235 align:start line:63% position:47% size:63% He also gives different spiritual gifts 00:19:29.235 --> 00:19:30.770 align:start line:69% position:50% size:56% to different churches. 00:19:30.770 --> 00:19:32.671 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% And I think he gives different spiritual gifts to 00:19:32.671 --> 00:19:34.073 align:start line:69% position:50% size:45% different nations. 00:19:34.073 --> 00:19:38.210 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% And we have been chosen by God as a nation for the most 00:19:38.210 --> 00:19:41.347 align:start line:63% position:45% size:73% dangerous spiritual gift, and that is affluence. 00:19:41.347 --> 00:19:44.650 align:start line:63% position:50% size:70% But the only purpose for affluence is for generosity. 00:19:44.650 --> 00:19:46.519 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% Randy: So true, and I know you know it because you've put it 00:19:46.519 --> 00:19:48.487 align:start line:69% position:50% size:35% into practice. 00:19:48.487 --> 00:19:52.358 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% I want you to know that, so I'm gonna give you the opportunity 00:19:52.358 --> 00:19:57.363 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% to put generosity into practice, not just say it's great, but do 00:19:57.363 --> 00:19:59.732 align:start line:63% position:48% size:48% it, because it does change things. 00:19:59.732 --> 00:20:01.734 align:start line:69% position:50% size:75% Watch this and you'll see how. 00:20:03.903 --> 00:20:05.905 align:start line:10% position:46% size:68% [speaking foreign language] 00:20:26.659 --> 00:20:30.796 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% announcer: Severina and Teresa unfortunately find themselves 00:20:30.796 --> 00:20:34.500 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% among the one out of four people globally that do not have access 00:20:34.500 --> 00:20:36.435 align:start line:69% position:47% size:58% to safe drinking water. 00:20:36.435 --> 00:20:39.205 align:start line:63% position:45% size:73% The reality of this statistic can be seen throughout an 00:20:39.205 --> 00:20:43.375 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% overwhelming number of rural villages in Angola, as mothers 00:20:43.375 --> 00:20:47.480 align:start line:63% position:50% size:65% and children collect water from unsafe sources. 00:20:47.480 --> 00:20:51.050 align:start line:63% position:47% size:58% The need is both urgent and widespread. 00:20:51.050 --> 00:20:54.920 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% Millions of families depend on unsafe water sources every day, 00:20:54.920 --> 00:20:57.923 align:start line:69% position:50% size:81% not by choice, but by necessity. 00:20:57.923 --> 00:21:01.560 align:start line:63% position:45% size:73% A reliable water well changes everything immediately and 00:21:01.560 --> 00:21:04.497 align:start line:69% position:50% size:41% for generations. 00:21:04.497 --> 00:21:07.199 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% John Yeatts: You know, this cup of water represents life. 00:21:07.199 --> 00:21:10.236 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% And as I'm standing here in this village where we put this water 00:21:10.236 --> 00:21:13.973 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% well almost 20 years ago and it's still producing life, I am 00:21:13.973 --> 00:21:17.309 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% reminded that just yesterday we were standing in a village where 00:21:17.309 --> 00:21:21.046 align:start line:63% position:50% size:70% there is absolutely no clean water sources, and that more 00:21:21.046 --> 00:21:24.683 align:start line:63% position:45% size:73% than 18 mothers since January have lost children because of 00:21:24.683 --> 00:21:27.353 align:start line:63% position:47% size:53% hunger and poor water conditions, 00:21:27.353 --> 00:21:29.054 align:start line:69% position:47% size:53% waterborne illnesses. 00:21:29.054 --> 00:21:32.424 align:start line:63% position:50% size:65% Together, those two things are a death sentence. 00:21:32.424 --> 00:21:36.195 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% These villages are in desperate need of hearing that a well is 00:21:36.195 --> 00:21:38.197 align:start line:69% position:50% size:61% coming to their village. 00:21:38.197 --> 00:21:41.767 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% We need your help right now to make sure that we can put a 00:21:41.767 --> 00:21:45.104 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% water well in each of these villages that are so desperately 00:21:45.104 --> 00:21:49.575 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% in need, so that mothers can quit weeping over the death of a 00:21:49.575 --> 00:21:53.779 align:start line:63% position:45% size:73% child and that they can shed tears of joy over the life of 00:21:53.779 --> 00:21:55.114 align:start line:69% position:50% size:21% a child. 00:21:55.114 --> 00:21:59.685 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% The difference is all in how we help provide in Jesus's name. 00:21:59.685 --> 00:22:02.154 align:start line:63% position:50% size:56% And so I'm asking you, would you help us? 00:22:02.154 --> 00:22:09.028 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% Would you help us give a cup of clean water in Jesus's name? 00:22:09.028 --> 00:22:13.599 align:start line:63% position:50% size:70% Randy: Our goal this year is to drill 350 wells in 20 00:22:13.599 --> 00:22:14.934 align:start line:69% position:50% size:50% different countries. 00:22:14.934 --> 00:22:16.302 align:start line:69% position:50% size:70% I would love to exceed that. 00:22:16.302 --> 00:22:17.636 align:start line:63% position:47% size:58% It's early in the year, I'm optimistic. 00:22:17.636 --> 00:22:20.472 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% But look, the average price, because we know we've been doing 00:22:20.472 --> 00:22:24.977 align:start line:63% position:47% size:58% this for so many years, is $4800 for one well. 00:22:24.977 --> 00:22:30.282 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% And that will change the lives of hundreds, sometimes thousands 00:22:30.282 --> 00:22:34.119 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% of people, because it becomes a place for not just a particular 00:22:34.119 --> 00:22:36.288 align:start line:69% position:46% size:68% village but a whole region. 00:22:36.288 --> 00:22:39.391 align:start line:10% position:50% size:70% Now, some of you can drill a well and I would ask you to 00:22:39.391 --> 00:22:40.893 align:start line:10% position:50% size:50% do that, just do it. 00:22:40.893 --> 00:22:43.462 align:start line:10% position:50% size:45% Pick up the phone, go online, do it. 00:22:43.462 --> 00:22:46.398 align:start line:10% position:50% size:75% Now many of you, I understand that's too far of a reach, but 00:22:46.398 --> 00:22:52.037 align:start line:10% position:50% size:81% you could provide clean drinking water for 30 people with a gift 00:22:52.037 --> 00:22:55.007 align:start line:10% position:50% size:21% of $144. 00:22:55.007 --> 00:22:59.678 align:start line:10% position:50% size:81% A gift of $48 will provide that same clean drinking water for an 00:22:59.678 --> 00:23:02.915 align:start line:10% position:44% size:78% average of 70 years, that's why we call it water for life, for 00:23:02.915 --> 00:23:04.250 align:start line:10% position:50% size:25% 10 people. 00:23:04.250 --> 00:23:09.288 align:start line:10% position:50% size:75% Whatever, you can be generous right now, not just in word or 00:23:09.288 --> 00:23:11.824 align:start line:10% position:50% size:61% in thought, but in deed. 00:23:11.824 --> 00:23:15.694 align:start line:10% position:50% size:81% And when you do, you will be stepping into what we're talking 00:23:15.694 --> 00:23:19.932 align:start line:10% position:50% size:70% about, because when you put God's Word into action, he's 00:23:19.932 --> 00:23:21.333 align:start line:10% position:48% size:48% already blessed it. 00:23:21.333 --> 00:23:22.768 align:start line:10% position:47% size:53% He's already done it. 00:23:22.768 --> 00:23:25.337 align:start line:10% position:45% size:73% So this is an opportunity for you to do that. 00:23:25.337 --> 00:23:29.675 align:start line:10% position:45% size:73% And Mark, I know you've experienced this, you've done 00:23:29.675 --> 00:23:31.877 align:start line:10% position:48% size:48% it, you've seen it. 00:23:31.877 --> 00:23:36.615 align:start line:10% position:50% size:81% Mark: I will tell you there is no investment that you will make 00:23:36.615 --> 00:23:39.785 align:start line:10% position:50% size:81% that will give you more bang for your buck or more joy for 00:23:39.785 --> 00:23:41.120 align:start line:10% position:48% size:28% your heart. 00:23:41.120 --> 00:23:45.391 align:start line:10% position:50% size:81% If you will give for one well, we promise you we will bring the 00:23:45.391 --> 00:23:48.727 align:start line:10% position:45% size:73% preaching of the Word of God behind it, so they don't just 00:23:48.727 --> 00:23:51.697 align:start line:10% position:50% size:75% receive water, they'll receive the water of life. 00:23:51.697 --> 00:23:57.770 align:start line:10% position:46% size:68% Jesus said that anyone who drinks of him will become a 00:23:57.770 --> 00:24:00.572 align:start line:10% position:47% size:58% spring of living water. 00:24:00.572 --> 00:24:03.509 align:start line:10% position:50% size:61% He didn't say that you would get water of life. 00:24:03.509 --> 00:24:05.878 align:start line:10% position:50% size:45% He said you would become the spring. 00:24:05.878 --> 00:24:09.515 align:start line:10% position:50% size:81% Will you become a spring of life for hundreds of people that you 00:24:09.515 --> 00:24:12.117 align:start line:10% position:44% size:78% will only see on the other side of eternity? 00:24:12.117 --> 00:24:14.586 align:start line:10% position:50% size:81% Randy: You're exactly right, and I appreciate you saying that 00:24:14.586 --> 00:24:18.057 align:start line:10% position:50% size:81% because, and Blynda, I know you know this as well, every time we 00:24:18.057 --> 00:24:22.494 align:start line:10% position:44% size:78% go in and we, whether it's drilling a well or giving food, 00:24:22.494 --> 00:24:26.765 align:start line:10% position:45% size:73% emergency food to people, rescuing young girls from sex 00:24:26.765 --> 00:24:30.035 align:start line:10% position:50% size:65% trafficking, the gospel is always a part of it. 00:24:30.035 --> 00:24:34.540 align:start line:10% position:50% size:75% And that's what I think really separates us, all of us here, 00:24:34.540 --> 00:24:38.177 align:start line:10% position:44% size:78% and all of the people that join with us, in these things, 00:24:38.177 --> 00:24:42.648 align:start line:10% position:45% size:73% because it's a good work when you give somebody, you know, 00:24:42.648 --> 00:24:44.750 align:start line:10% position:50% size:50% clean drinking water or something to eat. 00:24:44.750 --> 00:24:48.153 align:start line:10% position:50% size:65% It's a God work when you do it in Jesus's name. 00:24:48.153 --> 00:24:50.522 align:start line:10% position:47% size:53% And that's what we're here to do, God work. 00:24:50.522 --> 00:24:54.393 align:start line:10% position:45% size:73% So I do--by the way, Mark, I know the book hasn't been out 00:24:54.393 --> 00:24:56.762 align:start line:10% position:50% size:81% very long, but I think we can get our hands on a few of these. 00:24:56.762 --> 00:24:59.064 align:start line:10% position:47% size:53% For anybody that will make a gift today, 00:24:59.064 --> 00:25:01.400 align:start line:10% position:45% size:73% can we send them "Wisdom 52?" 00:25:01.400 --> 00:25:02.735 align:start line:10% position:50% size:41% Mark: We'll make sure it happens. 00:25:02.735 --> 00:25:04.803 align:start line:10% position:50% size:56% Randy: We'll make sure it happens, okay. 00:25:04.803 --> 00:25:06.205 align:start line:10% position:50% size:50% We are all set here. 00:25:06.205 --> 00:25:09.007 align:start line:10% position:47% size:53% We are ready to drill water wells. 00:25:09.007 --> 00:25:11.610 align:start line:10% position:47% size:58% We're ready to send you the book if you want. 00:25:11.610 --> 00:25:12.945 align:start line:10% position:48% size:28% Request it. 00:25:12.945 --> 00:25:15.748 align:start line:10% position:50% size:81% But most of all, let's put God's wisdom into action. 00:25:15.748 --> 00:25:19.418 align:start line:10% position:50% size:70% Let's be generous, let's do it in Jesus's name. 00:25:19.418 --> 00:25:22.454 align:start line:10% position:44% size:78% Let's give them water for life. 00:25:22.454 --> 00:25:25.891 align:start line:10% position:44% size:78% announcer: Every day thousands of lives are lost to waterborne 00:25:25.891 --> 00:25:28.794 align:start line:10% position:50% size:81% disease, and nearly half of those are children under the age 00:25:28.794 --> 00:25:30.162 align:start line:10% position:50% size:21% of five. 00:25:30.162 --> 00:25:33.465 align:start line:10% position:44% size:78% Through Mission Water for Life, you can give mothers hope and 00:25:33.465 --> 00:25:37.770 align:start line:10% position:44% size:78% children a future as we provide clean, fresh drinking water, 00:25:37.770 --> 00:25:40.072 align:start line:10% position:50% size:70% free from the fear of death. 00:25:40.072 --> 00:25:44.176 align:start line:10% position:45% size:73% With your gift today, you can help drill and establish 350 00:25:44.176 --> 00:25:45.911 align:start line:10% position:50% size:56% water wells this year. 00:25:45.911 --> 00:25:49.348 align:start line:10% position:50% size:65% Your gift of $24 will help provide clean water for 00:25:49.348 --> 00:25:50.716 align:start line:10% position:48% size:28% 5 children. 00:25:50.716 --> 00:25:55.521 align:start line:10% position:44% size:78% A gift of $48 will help provide for 10, and $144 will help 00:25:55.521 --> 00:25:59.258 align:start line:10% position:50% size:81% provide life-giving water for 30 people for a lifetime. 00:25:59.258 --> 00:26:03.395 align:start line:10% position:50% size:81% With a gift of any amount, we'll send you "Discovering the Joy of 00:26:03.395 --> 00:26:04.797 align:start line:10% position:50% size:50% Reading God's word." 00:26:04.797 --> 00:26:08.434 align:start line:10% position:50% size:81% Whether you've read the Bible for years or are just beginning, 00:26:08.434 --> 00:26:11.904 align:start line:10% position:50% size:81% this book invites you to experience Scripture in a fresh, 00:26:11.904 --> 00:26:13.305 align:start line:10% position:50% size:45% more intimate way. 00:26:13.305 --> 00:26:17.609 align:start line:10% position:44% size:78% With your gift of $100 or more, you may request "A Life of 00:26:17.609 --> 00:26:21.046 align:start line:10% position:44% size:78% Compassion" coffee table book, capturing Life Outreach's heart 00:26:21.046 --> 00:26:22.414 align:start line:10% position:50% size:35% for the world. 00:26:22.414 --> 00:26:26.251 align:start line:10% position:44% size:78% Each page pairs timeless Bible verses with vivid mission field 00:26:26.251 --> 00:26:30.856 align:start line:10% position:50% size:75% photography, making God's Word visible in action. 00:26:30.856 --> 00:26:35.260 align:start line:10% position:44% size:78% Finally, please consider a gift of $1200 to help provide water 00:26:35.260 --> 00:26:40.833 align:start line:10% position:50% size:81% for 250 people, or a gift of $4800 to help sponsor a complete 00:26:40.833 --> 00:26:45.971 align:start line:10% position:50% size:81% well and request Life's beautiful 2026 bronze sculpture, 00:26:45.971 --> 00:26:47.506 align:start line:10% position:50% size:50% "The Good Shepherd." 00:26:47.506 --> 00:26:53.378 align:start line:10% position:50% size:81% Please call, write, or make your gift online today. 00:26:53.378 --> 00:26:56.882 align:start line:10% position:50% size:81% Randy: Please do go online, go to the phone, make the best gift 00:26:56.882 --> 00:26:58.250 align:start line:10% position:50% size:21% you can. 00:26:58.250 --> 00:27:00.652 align:start line:10% position:46% size:68% If you wanna request Mark's book, we'd love to send it 00:27:00.652 --> 00:27:01.987 align:start line:10% position:48% size:18% to you. 00:27:01.987 --> 00:27:03.355 align:start line:10% position:50% size:75% What a blessing today, Blynda. 00:27:03.355 --> 00:27:04.690 align:start line:10% position:50% size:65% Blynda: It's been so good. 00:27:04.690 --> 00:27:06.325 align:start line:10% position:50% size:50% Mark, thank you so much for joining us. 00:27:06.325 --> 00:27:11.530 align:start line:10% position:50% size:75% Mark: Well, it's my honor, and seriously, don't just be wise, 00:27:11.530 --> 00:27:14.099 align:start line:10% position:50% size:45% act wise with what God has given you. 00:27:14.099 --> 00:27:16.835 align:start line:10% position:50% size:50% Be generous, and his blessings will flow. 00:27:16.835 --> 00:27:18.303 align:start line:10% position:50% size:65% Randy: It's already there. Blynda: It is. 00:27:18.303 --> 00:27:20.439 align:start line:10% position:50% size:81% Well, thank you again, and thank you for joining us today. 00:27:20.439 --> 00:27:21.907 align:start line:10% position:47% size:58% It's been lovely having you with us, 00:27:21.907 --> 00:27:24.710 align:start line:10% position:50% size:50% and we can't wait to see you next time. 00:27:24.710 --> 00:27:34.720 align:start line:10% position:48% size:18% [music] 00:27:34.720 --> 00:27:44.730 align:start line:10% position:48% size:18% [music] 00:27:44.730 --> 00:27:54.740 align:start line:10% position:48% size:18% [music] 00:27:54.740 --> 00:28:02.381 align:start line:10% position:48% size:18% [music] 00:28:02.381 --> 00:28:05.817 align:start line:10% position:50% size:81% announcer: Tomorrow, Mel Chancey became Hell's Angels' youngest 00:28:05.817 --> 00:28:07.753 align:start line:10% position:47% size:58% chapter president ever. 00:28:07.753 --> 00:28:12.558 align:start line:10% position:50% size:75% Mel Chancey: Losing my freedom was my rock bottom. 00:28:12.558 --> 00:28:14.893 align:start line:10% position:44% size:78% announcer: "Life Today" is made possible by the supporters of 00:28:14.893 --> 00:28:16.228 align:start line:10% position:50% size:70% Life Outreach International. 00:28:16.228 --> 00:28:18.297 align:start line:10% position:50% size:65% Your gift will be used exclusively for the exempt 00:28:18.297 --> 00:28:19.631 align:start line:10% position:48% size:43% purposes of Life. 00:28:19.631 --> 00:28:22.100 align:start line:10% position:50% size:75% The ministry features specific outreaches as examples of the 00:28:22.100 --> 00:28:23.602 align:start line:10% position:50% size:50% programs it supports and conducts. 00:28:23.602 --> 00:28:25.737 align:start line:10% position:45% size:73% Gifts are considered to be without restriction as to use 00:28:25.737 --> 00:28:27.472 align:start line:10% position:50% size:61% unless explicitly stipulated by the donor. 00:28:27.472 --> 00:28:29.474 align:start line:10% position:50% size:61% The ministry is a member of the ECFA.