WEBVTT NOTE This file was exported by MacCaption version 7.0.11 to comply with the WebVTT specification dated March 23, 2013. 00:00:00.667 --> 00:00:02.936 align:start line:79% position:44% size:78% male announcer: The following program is sponsored by Friends 00:00:02.936 --> 00:00:05.939 align:start line:85% position:44% size:78% of Life Outreach International. 00:00:06.473 --> 00:00:08.775 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% Chad Prather: Whether it was the bottom of a bottle of alcohol or 00:00:08.775 --> 00:00:11.278 align:start line:63% position:50% size:70% a bottom of a bag of drugs, wherever I could try to find 00:00:11.278 --> 00:00:12.846 align:start line:63% position:50% size:50% that reality is where I was looking. 00:00:12.846 --> 00:00:17.551 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% And I was living alone, I was in this big house all by myself. 00:00:17.551 --> 00:00:20.687 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% In my living room one night, the Lord showed up, and I began to 00:00:20.687 --> 00:00:23.123 align:start line:63% position:45% size:73% weep, and I began to cry, and there was deep regret in me. 00:00:23.123 --> 00:00:25.559 align:start line:63% position:50% size:56% There was deep repentance and sorrow. 00:00:25.559 --> 00:00:28.528 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% That's that Luke 15 moment where you come to yourself and say, 00:00:28.528 --> 00:00:30.297 align:start line:69% position:47% size:53% hey, what am I doing? 00:00:30.297 --> 00:00:31.899 align:start line:63% position:47% size:58% announcer: An encounter with Jesus 00:00:31.899 --> 00:00:36.036 align:start line:63% position:50% size:56% changed Chad Prather's life, next. 00:00:36.036 --> 00:00:46.046 align:start line:85% position:48% size:18% [music] 00:00:46.046 --> 00:00:53.720 align:start line:85% position:48% size:18% [music] 00:00:53.720 --> 00:00:56.657 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% Randy Robison: Welcome to "Life Today," I'm glad you're here. 00:00:56.657 --> 00:00:58.058 align:start line:69% position:50% size:65% I'm here with Blynda Lane. 00:00:58.058 --> 00:00:59.426 align:start line:69% position:50% size:65% How are you doing, Blynda? 00:00:59.426 --> 00:01:00.761 align:start line:63% position:47% size:58% Blynda Lane: Hi, Randy, so great to be here. 00:01:00.761 --> 00:01:02.229 align:start line:63% position:50% size:70% Randy: We have another great guest today, and some of you 00:01:02.229 --> 00:01:03.563 align:start line:69% position:47% size:58% already know who he is. 00:01:03.563 --> 00:01:06.833 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% If you know who Chad Prather is, you're probably here to see him 00:01:06.833 --> 00:01:08.201 align:start line:63% position:50% size:45% on the program and hear his story. 00:01:08.201 --> 00:01:09.536 align:start line:69% position:50% size:70% You're really gonna hear it. 00:01:09.536 --> 00:01:11.371 align:start line:63% position:47% size:58% If you don't know Chad, it's time you met him. 00:01:11.371 --> 00:01:14.074 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% He hosts "The Chad Prather Show" as well as a daily 00:01:14.074 --> 00:01:19.146 align:start line:63% position:45% size:73% "Before the Noise" prayer and devotional piece online. 00:01:19.146 --> 00:01:21.915 align:start line:63% position:50% size:65% He's also got a new book called "Born for Meaning." 00:01:21.915 --> 00:01:23.317 align:start line:63% position:50% size:50% You've been enjoying this, haven't you? 00:01:23.317 --> 00:01:25.585 align:start line:63% position:50% size:65% Blynda: I have, actually, "Walking Through the Ashes 00:01:25.585 --> 00:01:28.889 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% Toward Unbreakable Joy," who wouldn't enjoy reading something 00:01:28.889 --> 00:01:30.257 align:start line:69% position:50% size:25% like that? 00:01:30.257 --> 00:01:31.992 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% Randy: Yeah, and so, for some of you that know Chad, you're gonna 00:01:31.992 --> 00:01:33.760 align:start line:63% position:47% size:58% hear something that you might not have heard up 00:01:33.760 --> 00:01:35.128 align:start line:69% position:48% size:38% until recently. 00:01:35.128 --> 00:01:36.463 align:start line:69% position:48% size:48% Chad, man, welcome. 00:01:36.463 --> 00:01:37.831 align:start line:63% position:50% size:56% Chad: Thank you, thank you for having me. 00:01:37.831 --> 00:01:39.166 align:start line:63% position:48% size:43% It's good to be with both of you. 00:01:39.166 --> 00:01:40.767 align:start line:63% position:46% size:68% That is not a book that I ever thought I would write. 00:01:40.767 --> 00:01:43.236 align:start line:63% position:50% size:70% It's just not a place that I ever thought I would be as 00:01:43.236 --> 00:01:44.604 align:start line:69% position:50% size:16% a man. 00:01:44.604 --> 00:01:45.939 align:start line:69% position:50% size:50% Blynda: Tell us why. 00:01:45.939 --> 00:01:47.407 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% Chad: Well, you know, I think that men, particularly men who 00:01:47.407 --> 00:01:49.710 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% wear a hat like this out of the western world, they don't wanna 00:01:49.710 --> 00:01:53.714 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% talk about depression or anxiety or grief or tragedy or trauma or 00:01:53.714 --> 00:01:55.882 align:start line:63% position:50% size:70% any of the hurt, but they go through it, they just don't 00:01:55.882 --> 00:01:57.217 align:start line:69% position:50% size:50% wanna talk about it. 00:01:57.217 --> 00:02:01.488 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% And I went through a period of time in my life where that just 00:02:01.488 --> 00:02:04.324 align:start line:63% position:47% size:53% kind of flowed out of me out of necessity. 00:02:04.324 --> 00:02:09.029 align:start line:63% position:50% size:56% It was just like a baby I had to deliver. 00:02:09.029 --> 00:02:12.933 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% And we could talk more about that story, but it's just out of 00:02:12.933 --> 00:02:17.938 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% that hurt, out of that painful season of life came these words 00:02:17.938 --> 00:02:22.376 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% of life, and it's amazing what the fruit that's come out of, 00:02:22.376 --> 00:02:23.744 align:start line:69% position:50% size:41% it's tremendous. 00:02:23.744 --> 00:02:25.078 align:start line:63% position:50% size:50% Randy: Yeah, walk us back a little bit. 00:02:25.078 --> 00:02:28.882 align:start line:63% position:47% size:58% You actually at a young age pastored a church. 00:02:28.882 --> 00:02:30.917 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% Chad: I did, and when I was at the University of Georgia, I 00:02:30.917 --> 00:02:33.086 align:start line:63% position:45% size:73% felt the Lord calling me into ministry, didn't know exactly 00:02:33.086 --> 00:02:36.556 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% what that looked like, and my pastor, Wade Trimmer, there in 00:02:36.556 --> 00:02:38.592 align:start line:63% position:50% size:61% Augusta, Georgia, I went and sat down with him. 00:02:38.592 --> 00:02:40.327 align:start line:63% position:50% size:70% I said I don't know if God's calling me to preach or what 00:02:40.327 --> 00:02:42.295 align:start line:63% position:46% size:68% he's calling me to do, but there's something going on. 00:02:42.295 --> 00:02:46.166 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% I was 19 years old, and so we would meet together, and then we 00:02:46.166 --> 00:02:47.868 align:start line:63% position:50% size:70% traveled around the world together, and then I went to 00:02:47.868 --> 00:02:51.872 align:start line:69% position:45% size:73% seminary and began pastoring. 00:02:51.872 --> 00:02:54.408 align:start line:63% position:50% size:70% And so I jokingly say I pastored for about 12 years. 00:02:54.408 --> 00:02:57.511 align:start line:63% position:45% size:73% I say I was a great preacher, I was a terrible pastor. 00:02:57.511 --> 00:02:58.845 align:start line:69% position:48% size:48% Randy: Why is that? 00:02:58.845 --> 00:03:00.547 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% Chad: Well, people like to have their problems understood, not 00:03:00.547 --> 00:03:03.116 align:start line:63% position:46% size:68% so much fixed, and I'm a bottom line kind of person. 00:03:03.116 --> 00:03:06.353 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% So when people would wanna come in, I'm not one of those let me 00:03:06.353 --> 00:03:10.157 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% ask you how that makes you feel type of therapist or counselor, 00:03:10.157 --> 00:03:15.595 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% and so I discovered that the American church really doesn't 00:03:15.595 --> 00:03:18.732 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% want to let go of a lot of the trauma and grief and things that 00:03:18.732 --> 00:03:20.333 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% are going on in their life, because if they do, they'd lose 00:03:20.333 --> 00:03:21.668 align:start line:69% position:48% size:38% their identity. 00:03:21.668 --> 00:03:23.003 align:start line:63% position:47% size:53% They wouldn't know who they are anymore. 00:03:23.003 --> 00:03:27.274 align:start line:63% position:45% size:73% And so I wasn't the best in terms of the most shepherding 00:03:27.274 --> 00:03:30.977 align:start line:63% position:50% size:56% pastoral roles, bottom line kind of guy. 00:03:30.977 --> 00:03:32.879 align:start line:63% position:50% size:70% Randy: Sometimes you gotta kick the sheep into the pen, 00:03:32.879 --> 00:03:34.247 align:start line:69% position:48% size:23% you know? 00:03:34.247 --> 00:03:35.582 align:start line:69% position:50% size:70% To get them where they need. 00:03:35.582 --> 00:03:37.050 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% Chad: Well, our good mutual friend, Dudley Hall, used to say 00:03:37.050 --> 00:03:39.686 align:start line:63% position:45% size:73% if you want a church to die, like if one needs to go away, 00:03:39.686 --> 00:03:43.790 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% just call Chad in to pastor for about 12 months, and he'll take 00:03:43.790 --> 00:03:45.158 align:start line:69% position:48% size:28% care of it. 00:03:45.158 --> 00:03:48.395 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% So out of that, I really went into a place of brokenness and 00:03:48.395 --> 00:03:51.364 align:start line:63% position:46% size:68% went into--I went through a divorce, the mother of my 00:03:51.364 --> 00:03:54.034 align:start line:63% position:50% size:45% children, and just a broken time. 00:03:54.034 --> 00:03:57.737 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% Like, I often say it was my cave at Adullam season for a number 00:03:57.737 --> 00:04:00.674 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% of years where I was done with church, I was done with church 00:04:00.674 --> 00:04:04.044 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% people particularly, continued loving the Lord, but I was done 00:04:04.044 --> 00:04:07.047 align:start line:63% position:50% size:61% with particularly church leaders, men who'd call 00:04:07.047 --> 00:04:09.983 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% themselves pastors themselves, or even spiritual fathers. 00:04:09.983 --> 00:04:11.351 align:start line:69% position:44% size:78% I was just done with all of it. 00:04:11.351 --> 00:04:14.888 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% I said I don't wanna deal with it and began to search for 00:04:14.888 --> 00:04:17.557 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% reality in a lot of places, whether it was the bottom of a 00:04:17.557 --> 00:04:20.427 align:start line:63% position:47% size:63% bottle of alcohol or the bottom of a bag of drugs. 00:04:20.427 --> 00:04:22.729 align:start line:63% position:50% size:70% Wherever I could try to find that reality is where I was 00:04:22.729 --> 00:04:28.235 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% looking, and I wound up, because I do have a gift to communicate, 00:04:28.235 --> 00:04:31.004 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% although I was not in ministry obviously anymore, I wound up 00:04:31.004 --> 00:04:34.407 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% doing radio and then television and then live entertainment, 00:04:34.407 --> 00:04:36.009 align:start line:69% position:46% size:68% went viral on social media. 00:04:36.009 --> 00:04:39.546 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% I was the guy that people would see sitting in his truck with 00:04:39.546 --> 00:04:42.215 align:start line:63% position:50% size:70% the dog in the back seat pontificating about life and 00:04:42.215 --> 00:04:44.784 align:start line:63% position:50% size:65% trying to make fun of just things that I observed in 00:04:44.784 --> 00:04:46.153 align:start line:69% position:50% size:25% the world. 00:04:46.153 --> 00:04:48.021 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% And then I had a comedian friend of mine who said why don't you 00:04:48.021 --> 00:04:49.356 align:start line:69% position:48% size:48% go do comedy shows? 00:04:49.356 --> 00:04:50.690 align:start line:63% position:47% size:63% I said, well, I don't know that I'm a comedian. 00:04:50.690 --> 00:04:53.827 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% And he said who cares, if they buy tickets, just get on stage. 00:04:53.827 --> 00:04:58.165 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% And so that launched me into a career of touring and trying to 00:04:58.165 --> 00:04:59.533 align:start line:69% position:50% size:45% make people laugh. 00:04:59.533 --> 00:05:03.236 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% We incorporated music into all of that, and so then I got into 00:05:03.236 --> 00:05:06.773 align:start line:63% position:50% size:70% political humor and then political talk and doing the 00:05:06.773 --> 00:05:10.477 align:start line:63% position:45% size:73% media and on all the networks doing that and podcasting and 00:05:10.477 --> 00:05:14.581 align:start line:63% position:45% size:73% one thing after another, I'm snowballing this avalanche of 00:05:14.581 --> 00:05:17.584 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% just so many things happening in life coming at you so quickly 00:05:17.584 --> 00:05:19.319 align:start line:63% position:47% size:63% and involved with so many different things, you 00:05:19.319 --> 00:05:20.687 align:start line:69% position:48% size:28% lose track. 00:05:20.687 --> 00:05:23.156 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% I often warn my audience, I said the devil doesn't have to 00:05:23.156 --> 00:05:25.058 align:start line:63% position:48% size:48% destroy you, he's gotta distract you. 00:05:25.058 --> 00:05:26.826 align:start line:63% position:47% size:53% And when he distracts you, you drift. 00:05:26.826 --> 00:05:29.095 align:start line:63% position:50% size:61% And we don't think about drifting, but you do. 00:05:29.095 --> 00:05:32.098 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% You can love the Lord and continue drifting, and the next 00:05:32.098 --> 00:05:33.900 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% thing you know, it's like being in the water at the beach. 00:05:33.900 --> 00:05:36.203 align:start line:63% position:45% size:73% You look up, and you're like, I'm not in front of my towel 00:05:36.203 --> 00:05:39.339 align:start line:63% position:50% size:56% anymore, I'm a quarter mile down the surf. 00:05:39.339 --> 00:05:42.008 align:start line:63% position:50% size:56% And that's sort of the way life was for me. 00:05:42.008 --> 00:05:48.181 align:start line:63% position:50% size:70% And went through a period of time of just not knowing the 00:05:48.181 --> 00:05:49.849 align:start line:69% position:50% size:45% direction anymore. 00:05:49.849 --> 00:05:53.620 align:start line:63% position:47% size:63% And I was very frustrated saying, okay, who am I 00:05:53.620 --> 00:05:54.955 align:start line:69% position:50% size:25% right now? 00:05:54.955 --> 00:05:58.491 align:start line:63% position:50% size:70% Because identity is such a powerful thing, and a lot of 00:05:58.491 --> 00:06:00.827 align:start line:63% position:50% size:70% people just--they don't have a sense of it these days. 00:06:00.827 --> 00:06:03.663 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% We live in a day and age where people are creating their 00:06:03.663 --> 00:06:07.934 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% identities, where historically your identity was inherited, or 00:06:07.934 --> 00:06:10.503 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% you were born into it, you knew where you came from, and I 00:06:10.503 --> 00:06:13.373 align:start line:63% position:45% size:73% didn't have that anymore, so I got really, really lost and 00:06:13.373 --> 00:06:15.809 align:start line:63% position:50% size:65% really, really frustrated, really, really alone and 00:06:15.809 --> 00:06:18.311 align:start line:63% position:50% size:56% isolated, and that's a dangerous place to be. 00:06:18.311 --> 00:06:19.679 align:start line:63% position:50% size:45% Blynda: What was the turning point? 00:06:19.679 --> 00:06:22.716 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% Because I know a lot of times in life it's hitting rock bottom 00:06:22.716 --> 00:06:26.953 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% before we actually see what's ahead of us or see the light, if 00:06:26.953 --> 00:06:28.288 align:start line:69% position:48% size:23% you will. 00:06:28.288 --> 00:06:29.656 align:start line:69% position:50% size:56% What was that for you? 00:06:29.656 --> 00:06:31.258 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% Chad: I remember a conversation I had on the phone with our 00:06:31.258 --> 00:06:33.960 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% friend Gary Chapman a few years ago, and Gary said, you know, if 00:06:33.960 --> 00:06:35.895 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% you hit rock bottom, look around, you'll probably see my 00:06:35.895 --> 00:06:38.665 align:start line:63% position:46% size:68% name scratched on the wall two or three times as well. 00:06:38.665 --> 00:06:42.802 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% And so I have often described it as spending my adult life, I'm 00:06:42.802 --> 00:06:49.576 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% 53 now, of everywhere I step, stepping on a landmine, and you 00:06:49.576 --> 00:06:53.079 align:start line:63% position:45% size:73% go through these seasons of, okay, I'm gonna try this now, 00:06:53.079 --> 00:06:54.414 align:start line:69% position:50% size:45% that doesn't work. 00:06:54.414 --> 00:06:56.182 align:start line:63% position:48% size:48% I'm gonna try that, that doesn't work. 00:06:56.182 --> 00:06:59.185 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% Now, in the world's eyes it looks wildly successful, and it 00:06:59.185 --> 00:07:02.322 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% is successful, but in your heart, in that identity place, 00:07:02.322 --> 00:07:03.690 align:start line:69% position:50% size:50% it's not successful. 00:07:03.690 --> 00:07:05.225 align:start line:69% position:50% size:75% It's not bringing fulfillment. 00:07:05.225 --> 00:07:09.663 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% You know, we just--was looking at the political scope of things 00:07:09.663 --> 00:07:11.598 align:start line:63% position:50% size:56% that are going on in the country right now. 00:07:11.598 --> 00:07:14.534 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% Two, four years ago, gosh, four years ago, I was on the ballot 00:07:14.534 --> 00:07:16.336 align:start line:69% position:50% size:75% running for governor in Texas. 00:07:16.336 --> 00:07:18.238 align:start line:63% position:50% size:70% And I'm like what are you doing at this point in life? 00:07:18.238 --> 00:07:21.007 align:start line:63% position:46% size:68% Like, you're trying to find meaning in everything and 00:07:21.007 --> 00:07:22.709 align:start line:69% position:50% size:56% finding it in nothing. 00:07:22.709 --> 00:07:27.714 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% So, to answer your question, I was living alone, I was in this 00:07:27.714 --> 00:07:30.317 align:start line:63% position:47% size:58% big house all by myself in my living room. 00:07:30.317 --> 00:07:35.588 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% One night I'm watching a baseball game, and the Lord just 00:07:35.588 --> 00:07:36.923 align:start line:69% position:44% size:78% walked through the living room. 00:07:36.923 --> 00:07:42.228 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% The Lord showed up, and I often inappropriately say he turned me 00:07:42.228 --> 00:07:46.433 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% into a bubbling pile of goo, and I broke, and I began to weep, 00:07:46.433 --> 00:07:48.668 align:start line:63% position:50% size:70% and I began to cry, and there was deep regret in me. 00:07:48.668 --> 00:07:52.772 align:start line:63% position:45% size:73% There was deep repentance and sorrow for things that I had 00:07:52.772 --> 00:07:56.476 align:start line:63% position:50% size:45% just--the things I drifted away from. 00:07:56.476 --> 00:07:59.446 align:start line:63% position:50% size:65% And in that moment I said, God, what do you want? 00:07:59.446 --> 00:08:01.881 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% I've described it as God putting his hands on my shoulders and 00:08:01.881 --> 00:08:04.484 align:start line:63% position:50% size:70% pressing down with a very tangible weight, and I said, 00:08:04.484 --> 00:08:06.186 align:start line:69% position:50% size:75% God, what do you want from me? 00:08:06.186 --> 00:08:08.521 align:start line:63% position:50% size:65% And he said, "I made a lot of investments in you as a 00:08:08.521 --> 00:08:09.856 align:start line:69% position:50% size:25% young man. 00:08:09.856 --> 00:08:12.325 align:start line:63% position:50% size:61% I'm gonna make some big withdrawals out of you." 00:08:12.325 --> 00:08:15.028 align:start line:63% position:47% size:63% And I said, "Well, that's wildly inconvenient." 00:08:15.028 --> 00:08:18.631 align:start line:63% position:50% size:70% That is wild--but you know, it's funny, the Lord doesn't 00:08:18.631 --> 00:08:21.134 align:start line:63% position:48% size:48% really care how inconvenient it is. 00:08:21.134 --> 00:08:23.336 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% I didn't know what any of that looked like, I just said--I was 00:08:23.336 --> 00:08:26.406 align:start line:63% position:50% size:70% in that moment where I said, Lord, whatever you wanna do, 00:08:26.406 --> 00:08:27.741 align:start line:69% position:50% size:25% I'm yours. 00:08:27.741 --> 00:08:30.577 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% I belong to you, I want to do it, I'm ready to come back, I'm 00:08:30.577 --> 00:08:33.046 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% ready to find that center again, come back to that place of 00:08:33.046 --> 00:08:36.750 align:start line:63% position:50% size:50% identity and go back to pursuing destiny. 00:08:36.750 --> 00:08:40.353 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% And so I always encourage people to say, you know, at 50, you 00:08:40.353 --> 00:08:44.758 align:start line:63% position:45% size:73% know, 50 years old, it's not too late to start over again. 00:08:44.758 --> 00:08:46.292 align:start line:69% position:50% size:61% God's always got a plan. 00:08:46.292 --> 00:08:48.528 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% You never know when the promise of God's gonna show up. 00:08:48.528 --> 00:08:50.597 align:start line:63% position:47% size:63% I mean, he did that throughout the scripture. 00:08:50.597 --> 00:08:52.766 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% You know, he tells Abraham as an old man, you're gonna have a 00:08:52.766 --> 00:08:56.202 align:start line:63% position:47% size:63% son, and he's like you're kidding me, and he did. 00:08:56.202 --> 00:08:58.138 align:start line:63% position:50% size:45% And out of that comes the promise. 00:08:58.138 --> 00:09:01.341 align:start line:63% position:45% size:73% It's never too late, and I say this to men specifically, 00:09:01.341 --> 00:09:04.677 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% because a lot of guys who think they can see the end from the 00:09:04.677 --> 00:09:07.781 align:start line:63% position:45% size:73% beginning, and you break that script, and now you got a 00:09:07.781 --> 00:09:09.115 align:start line:69% position:48% size:28% broken man. 00:09:09.115 --> 00:09:11.017 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% He he doesn't understand anymore, because the narrative 00:09:11.017 --> 00:09:12.819 align:start line:69% position:50% size:45% is broken for him. 00:09:12.819 --> 00:09:15.021 align:start line:63% position:47% size:63% But it's okay to let that narrative get broken. 00:09:15.021 --> 00:09:16.823 align:start line:63% position:50% size:45% So, for me, it had to get broken. 00:09:16.823 --> 00:09:18.158 align:start line:69% position:50% size:50% I had to get broken. 00:09:18.158 --> 00:09:21.127 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% I just don't think God uses anybody that hasn't been broken, 00:09:21.127 --> 00:09:22.662 align:start line:63% position:50% size:45% and he's broken me a number of times. 00:09:22.662 --> 00:09:26.966 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% I've hit that rock bottom a few times, and it's okay to do that. 00:09:26.966 --> 00:09:29.269 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% Randy: I wanna ask you about something you kind of went by a 00:09:29.269 --> 00:09:31.704 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% little quickly, because I think it's important for a lot of 00:09:31.704 --> 00:09:33.039 align:start line:69% position:47% size:58% people in our audience. 00:09:33.039 --> 00:09:36.609 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% You talk about getting to a point where you didn't like the 00:09:36.609 --> 00:09:41.448 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% preachers, you know, church leaders, and the problem is that 00:09:41.448 --> 00:09:45.618 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% you know people are flawed and, you know, being raised the son 00:09:45.618 --> 00:09:48.488 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% of an evangelist that everybody looks up to and he's on TV and 00:09:48.488 --> 00:09:51.224 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% everybody would call successful, and yet I know him at home, and 00:09:51.224 --> 00:09:53.693 align:start line:63% position:50% size:45% I'm like he's just a guy, you know? 00:09:53.693 --> 00:09:57.163 align:start line:63% position:47% size:58% And I don't--I mean zero disrespect, right? 00:09:57.163 --> 00:10:00.233 align:start line:63% position:45% size:73% It's just that we're complex, none of us are perfect. 00:10:00.233 --> 00:10:04.170 align:start line:63% position:45% size:73% What was it that kind of got to you that made you not like 00:10:04.170 --> 00:10:05.572 align:start line:69% position:50% size:35% church people? 00:10:05.572 --> 00:10:10.009 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% Chad: It was a false expectation, and you--a working 00:10:10.009 --> 00:10:13.546 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% definition in my mind, someone said to me years ago, they said, 00:10:13.546 --> 00:10:16.883 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% you know, don't become cynical, and a cynical person is a person 00:10:16.883 --> 00:10:18.718 align:start line:63% position:50% size:65% who's a passionate person, but they're tired of 00:10:18.718 --> 00:10:20.520 align:start line:69% position:48% size:48% being disappointed. 00:10:20.520 --> 00:10:23.223 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% And when that passion keeps getting disappointed in you, and 00:10:23.223 --> 00:10:26.292 align:start line:63% position:50% size:70% you've put somebody up to be something they just can't 00:10:26.292 --> 00:10:29.629 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% fulfill or be, you're gonna grow cynical towards them, and that's 00:10:29.629 --> 00:10:30.964 align:start line:69% position:50% size:56% what happened with me. 00:10:30.964 --> 00:10:34.534 align:start line:63% position:45% size:73% Some great men, great men who invested in my life, and I'm 00:10:34.534 --> 00:10:37.570 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% still in great relationship with them to this day, they did 00:10:37.570 --> 00:10:39.405 align:start line:69% position:50% size:35% nothing wrong. 00:10:39.405 --> 00:10:43.710 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% I wanted them to come and fill a certain void that was missing in 00:10:43.710 --> 00:10:47.747 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% me as a young man who was trying to find his way in ministry and 00:10:47.747 --> 00:10:52.252 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% in life and try to work out those identity issues, and they 00:10:52.252 --> 00:10:56.089 align:start line:63% position:45% size:73% were just being men, and I was expecting them to be more 00:10:56.089 --> 00:10:57.457 align:start line:69% position:48% size:23% than men. 00:10:57.457 --> 00:10:58.791 align:start line:63% position:50% size:50% A lot of times people will do that. 00:10:58.791 --> 00:11:02.462 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% I've noticed that, you know, as a person who tries to use this 00:11:02.462 --> 00:11:06.666 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% platform in these days to promote the kingdom and push the 00:11:06.666 --> 00:11:09.903 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% things of God and really try to bring people back to a place of 00:11:09.903 --> 00:11:12.805 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% truth, you'll have people inevitably who look at you and 00:11:12.805 --> 00:11:16.342 align:start line:63% position:48% size:48% say, wait a minute, but we know you. 00:11:16.342 --> 00:11:17.677 align:start line:69% position:46% size:68% We know how you really are. 00:11:17.677 --> 00:11:20.647 align:start line:69% position:47% size:63% And I say, okay, exactly. 00:11:20.647 --> 00:11:21.981 align:start line:69% position:50% size:56% I want you to know me. 00:11:21.981 --> 00:11:23.316 align:start line:69% position:45% size:73% I want you to know me feeble. 00:11:23.316 --> 00:11:24.684 align:start line:69% position:45% size:73% I want you to know me fallen. 00:11:24.684 --> 00:11:27.787 align:start line:63% position:47% size:58% I want you to know me frail, and that's okay. 00:11:27.787 --> 00:11:31.891 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% But just like everybody else, we're working out this salvation 00:11:31.891 --> 00:11:35.094 align:start line:63% position:47% size:63% with fear and trembling just like everybody else. 00:11:35.094 --> 00:11:37.864 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% And so I think we put leaders, and we've done this particularly 00:11:37.864 --> 00:11:40.233 align:start line:63% position:50% size:70% in the American church in a big way, we put leaders on a 00:11:40.233 --> 00:11:43.236 align:start line:63% position:50% size:61% pedestal they were never were designed to be on. 00:11:43.236 --> 00:11:45.505 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% The problem is when leaders believe they're supposed to be 00:11:45.505 --> 00:11:48.207 align:start line:63% position:48% size:48% there, we know what happens with that. 00:11:48.207 --> 00:11:51.945 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% But we're at fault for putting them up there in a lot of ways, 00:11:51.945 --> 00:11:53.913 align:start line:63% position:46% size:68% and then they get to a place where they rise above 00:11:53.913 --> 00:11:56.983 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% accountability, and then there's a lot of men who don't want to 00:11:56.983 --> 00:12:00.687 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% lead, because as someone said a long time ago, we gut shoot our 00:12:00.687 --> 00:12:03.256 align:start line:63% position:45% size:73% preachers and then shoot them for not having any guts. 00:12:03.256 --> 00:12:07.994 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% And so now they're afraid to be bold and strong and be leaders. 00:12:07.994 --> 00:12:11.631 align:start line:63% position:45% size:73% And so you have, you know, this is why in the scripture, 00:12:11.631 --> 00:12:14.500 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% oftentimes like John's epistles, he talked--he addresses the 00:12:14.500 --> 00:12:16.536 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% fathers, and then he addresses the sons, and he addresses the 00:12:16.536 --> 00:12:20.640 align:start line:63% position:45% size:73% fathers, and he addresses the sons, and we're looking for 00:12:20.640 --> 00:12:23.476 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% fathers who have that wide field of vision, because the sons a 00:12:23.476 --> 00:12:25.111 align:start line:63% position:48% size:43% lot of time have that laser focus. 00:12:25.111 --> 00:12:29.616 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% A laser can be used to heal or hurt, and without the fathers 00:12:29.616 --> 00:12:32.385 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% and their wider field of vision, we don't know how to teach the 00:12:32.385 --> 00:12:36.055 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% younger--the sons how to control that laser vision that 00:12:36.055 --> 00:12:37.390 align:start line:69% position:50% size:25% they have. 00:12:37.390 --> 00:12:40.293 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% And so it's an important thing, but it's sort of tricky, and 00:12:40.293 --> 00:12:42.895 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% without the Lord's help and guidance, we're gonna miss that, 00:12:42.895 --> 00:12:45.765 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% because we're inevitably gonna become those cynical people that 00:12:45.765 --> 00:12:47.734 align:start line:69% position:48% size:43% are disappointed. 00:12:47.734 --> 00:12:52.171 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% I had gone a couple of years not even talking to my spiritual 00:12:52.171 --> 00:12:53.506 align:start line:69% position:47% size:53% father, Wade Trimmer. 00:12:53.506 --> 00:12:54.874 align:start line:69% position:44% size:78% We traveled the world together. 00:12:54.874 --> 00:12:57.944 align:start line:63% position:50% size:70% He loves me like his own biological son, and my dear, 00:12:57.944 --> 00:13:00.480 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% dear--and I said I went two years, and I didn't want to talk 00:13:00.480 --> 00:13:01.814 align:start line:69% position:48% size:18% to him. 00:13:01.814 --> 00:13:03.182 align:start line:63% position:50% size:41% I didn't want to talk to anybody. 00:13:03.182 --> 00:13:06.219 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% But it wasn't me putting something on--it was not their 00:13:06.219 --> 00:13:09.822 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% fault, the issue was I didn't want what was going on in me to 00:13:09.822 --> 00:13:11.324 align:start line:69% position:50% size:31% be revealed. 00:13:11.324 --> 00:13:14.360 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% Because to see them, to talk to them, to have that communication 00:13:14.360 --> 00:13:17.163 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% relationship was going to reveal something that was happening in 00:13:17.163 --> 00:13:19.832 align:start line:63% position:47% size:58% me, and ultimately what it was was rebellion. 00:13:19.832 --> 00:13:21.167 align:start line:69% position:48% size:43% It was rebellion. 00:13:21.167 --> 00:13:23.269 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% We can candy coat it, we can call it drift and distraction, 00:13:23.269 --> 00:13:26.305 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% it was rebellion, and I didn't want to deal with that. 00:13:26.305 --> 00:13:29.442 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% Blynda: You even speak about in the book that you call them 00:13:29.442 --> 00:13:32.979 align:start line:63% position:50% size:70% self-inflicted wounds, where some of--where somebody can 00:13:32.979 --> 00:13:35.081 align:start line:69% position:50% size:81% find themselves in a tough spot. 00:13:35.081 --> 00:13:39.752 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% It could be outside, you know, things happening, but a lot of 00:13:39.752 --> 00:13:43.556 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% times it's these self-inflicted wounds that we do to ourselves 00:13:43.556 --> 00:13:47.026 align:start line:63% position:50% size:56% almost self-sabotaging what God has for us. 00:13:47.026 --> 00:13:48.394 align:start line:69% position:50% size:41% Speak into that. 00:13:48.394 --> 00:13:49.729 align:start line:69% position:50% size:61% Chad: We love our scars. 00:13:49.729 --> 00:13:52.565 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% We love--you get a group of men together, and you get them 00:13:52.565 --> 00:13:56.769 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% telling stories, and they're all gonna try to one-up one another 00:13:56.769 --> 00:13:58.104 align:start line:69% position:48% size:48% with their stories. 00:13:58.104 --> 00:13:59.972 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% Oh, that happened to you, let me tell you where I fell off a 00:13:59.972 --> 00:14:01.574 align:start line:69% position:48% size:43% 30-foot building. 00:14:01.574 --> 00:14:02.909 align:start line:69% position:50% size:70% Blynda: The scar's this big. 00:14:02.909 --> 00:14:05.411 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% Chad: Yeah, yeah, I go back to that scene in the movie "Jaws" 00:14:05.411 --> 00:14:07.513 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% where they're out on the boat, and they're showing their scars 00:14:07.513 --> 00:14:08.881 align:start line:69% position:50% size:35% to each other. 00:14:08.881 --> 00:14:11.384 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% Yeah, well, you know, a shark bit my leg off, and so there-- 00:14:11.384 --> 00:14:13.086 align:start line:69% position:50% size:70% men wanna one-up each other. 00:14:13.086 --> 00:14:14.420 align:start line:69% position:47% size:63% We're proud of our scars. 00:14:14.420 --> 00:14:16.022 align:start line:63% position:50% size:61% We live in a day and age now where people are 00:14:16.022 --> 00:14:17.724 align:start line:69% position:47% size:63% manufacturing oppression. 00:14:17.724 --> 00:14:20.159 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% They're coming up with victimhood, like they've lived a 00:14:20.159 --> 00:14:22.862 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% perfectly great first-world life, you know, they've had the 00:14:22.862 --> 00:14:26.899 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% red carpet rolled out in front of them, and it's like, well, if 00:14:26.899 --> 00:14:30.002 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% I don't have some type of scar in my life, I need to come up 00:14:30.002 --> 00:14:33.372 align:start line:63% position:46% size:68% with something, because we identify one another by our 00:14:33.372 --> 00:14:35.875 align:start line:63% position:45% size:73% wounds and our trauma and our tragedy and our grief and 00:14:35.875 --> 00:14:37.243 align:start line:69% position:50% size:25% our angle. 00:14:37.243 --> 00:14:38.578 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% Well, you think you've been through something, let me tell 00:14:38.578 --> 00:14:39.946 align:start line:69% position:46% size:68% you what I've been through. 00:14:39.946 --> 00:14:42.415 align:start line:63% position:45% size:73% And so we start self-inflicting these wounds. 00:14:42.415 --> 00:14:45.451 align:start line:63% position:47% size:63% We all have enough woundedness to go around. 00:14:45.451 --> 00:14:46.986 align:start line:69% position:46% size:68% We all have a father wound. 00:14:46.986 --> 00:14:48.855 align:start line:63% position:50% size:50% We all have a father wound with God. 00:14:48.855 --> 00:14:51.991 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% We have a father wound physically with our own physical 00:14:51.991 --> 00:14:54.527 align:start line:63% position:50% size:65% fathers or the ones we knew or maybe didn't know. 00:14:54.527 --> 00:14:57.930 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% We have those wounds, but now we're out creating things, which 00:14:57.930 --> 00:15:01.534 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% goes back to the identity thing, where I said we used to be given 00:15:01.534 --> 00:15:05.104 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% an identity based on our lineage or heritage or your namesake 00:15:05.104 --> 00:15:08.474 align:start line:63% position:50% size:70% or--so people are now, they're coming up with these 00:15:08.474 --> 00:15:10.109 align:start line:69% position:48% size:43% fluid identities. 00:15:10.109 --> 00:15:14.714 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% Well, that doesn't free you, that frustrates you, and at the 00:15:14.714 --> 00:15:17.717 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% end of the day, it's gonna just feed into the fallen nature, and 00:15:17.717 --> 00:15:20.820 align:start line:63% position:45% size:73% so now we're self-inflicting, and we're wounded people. 00:15:20.820 --> 00:15:23.256 align:start line:63% position:47% size:58% The problem is we don't wanna admit that. 00:15:23.256 --> 00:15:24.624 align:start line:69% position:46% size:68% Men are the worst about it. 00:15:24.624 --> 00:15:25.958 align:start line:69% position:50% size:65% We don't wanna admit that. 00:15:25.958 --> 00:15:27.593 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% Randy: So let me ask you what happened, because, you know, we 00:15:27.593 --> 00:15:29.662 align:start line:63% position:48% size:43% kind of covered a lot of territory. 00:15:29.662 --> 00:15:33.399 align:start line:63% position:45% size:73% Whether you're bringing your identity issues, your wounds, 00:15:33.399 --> 00:15:37.670 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% your frustrations, your disappointments, all that stuff, 00:15:37.670 --> 00:15:41.674 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% even your own failure to God when he walked in that room with 00:15:41.674 --> 00:15:44.110 align:start line:63% position:48% size:43% you, what did you sense from him? 00:15:44.110 --> 00:15:48.114 align:start line:63% position:50% size:70% Because most people, fear, condemnation, shame, all the 00:15:48.114 --> 00:15:50.950 align:start line:63% position:50% size:70% negative things that we just reflexively try to avoid. 00:15:50.950 --> 00:15:54.287 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% Is that what you felt when God's presence came into your room? 00:15:54.287 --> 00:15:57.023 align:start line:63% position:50% size:56% Chad: I don't have the words to describe it. 00:15:57.023 --> 00:16:01.961 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% You wanna say you're embarrassed in that moment that you get it 00:16:01.961 --> 00:16:05.498 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% together, pull yourself up, dust yourself off, that's the man way 00:16:05.498 --> 00:16:06.866 align:start line:69% position:48% size:23% to do it. 00:16:06.866 --> 00:16:09.035 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% But I said, no, I'm just gonna let the Lord heal me in this 00:16:09.035 --> 00:16:11.304 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% moment, because I was so broken, I was so alone, I was so 00:16:11.304 --> 00:16:14.373 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% isolated, I had so much, as I said, regret, you know, I felt 00:16:14.373 --> 00:16:17.143 align:start line:63% position:50% size:50% like I had failed my now adult children. 00:16:17.143 --> 00:16:20.213 align:start line:63% position:50% size:41% I had not, but I felt that I had. 00:16:20.213 --> 00:16:24.016 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% I had regret there, having gone through divorce, rebellion 00:16:24.016 --> 00:16:29.088 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% against God, chasing a path that I knew was not what God had for 00:16:29.088 --> 00:16:31.924 align:start line:63% position:47% size:63% me for a number of years, you know, looking for the 00:16:31.924 --> 00:16:33.259 align:start line:69% position:50% size:41% world's success. 00:16:33.259 --> 00:16:35.127 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% I mean, I turn around, I wake up one day, and I'm in Hollywood, 00:16:35.127 --> 00:16:38.097 align:start line:63% position:45% size:73% and I'm writing, you know, comedy shows for sitcoms, and 00:16:38.097 --> 00:16:40.399 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% I'm out there in that world, and it's just a crazy thing, and I'm 00:16:40.399 --> 00:16:43.002 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% like I'm just a--you know, I grew up so deep in the country 00:16:43.002 --> 00:16:45.838 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% in Georgia, I got a cousin that got arrested for, you know, 00:16:45.838 --> 00:16:48.741 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% selling chicken salad sandwiches at a chicken fight. 00:16:48.741 --> 00:16:51.143 align:start line:63% position:48% size:48% I mean, just didn't have a food permit. 00:16:51.143 --> 00:16:53.412 align:start line:63% position:50% size:45% I mean, we were country, you know? 00:16:53.412 --> 00:16:57.650 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% I mean, we grew up in a mobile home where, yeah, you know, 00:16:57.650 --> 00:16:59.986 align:start line:63% position:45% size:73% we're so down in the woods, I said, but when I went to the 00:16:59.986 --> 00:17:02.889 align:start line:63% position:46% size:68% University of Georgia, they said that fraternity house 00:17:02.889 --> 00:17:04.257 align:start line:69% position:48% size:28% is haunted. 00:17:04.257 --> 00:17:05.591 align:start line:63% position:48% size:48% I said I don't know what that means. 00:17:05.591 --> 00:17:06.959 align:start line:69% position:46% size:68% They said it's got a ghost. 00:17:06.959 --> 00:17:08.294 align:start line:63% position:50% size:45% I said I don't know what that is. 00:17:08.294 --> 00:17:10.029 align:start line:63% position:45% size:73% And they said--I said where I grew up our houses didn't get 00:17:10.029 --> 00:17:11.530 align:start line:63% position:50% size:56% possessed, they got repossessed, you know? 00:17:11.530 --> 00:17:13.165 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% You die in a mobile home, you're not coming back to that. 00:17:13.165 --> 00:17:15.935 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% I mean, we were country folks, and now I'm out in Hollywood 00:17:15.935 --> 00:17:19.605 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% rubbing shoulders with these Hollywood celebrity folks, and 00:17:19.605 --> 00:17:21.607 align:start line:63% position:45% size:73% I'm doing all this stuff, and I'm like, okay, this is what 00:17:21.607 --> 00:17:23.576 align:start line:69% position:44% size:78% life's all about, I've made it. 00:17:23.576 --> 00:17:25.745 align:start line:69% position:50% size:61% I hadn't made it at all. 00:17:25.745 --> 00:17:29.181 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% Because when you step across the threshold from the father's 00:17:29.181 --> 00:17:33.619 align:start line:63% position:45% size:73% house, and your heart is destined for the far country, 00:17:33.619 --> 00:17:35.821 align:start line:63% position:50% size:70% that one step across the threshold, you're in the far 00:17:35.821 --> 00:17:38.457 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% country, and the far country feels good for a little while. 00:17:38.457 --> 00:17:40.960 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% It feels like the world's success, and then you wake up in 00:17:40.960 --> 00:17:43.729 align:start line:63% position:45% size:73% the pig slop one day, and you go, you come to yourself, and 00:17:43.729 --> 00:17:45.531 align:start line:69% position:50% size:70% that's what that feels like. 00:17:45.531 --> 00:17:48.434 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% That's that Luke 15 moment where you come to yourself and say, 00:17:48.434 --> 00:17:50.369 align:start line:69% position:47% size:53% hey, what am I doing? 00:17:50.369 --> 00:17:54.040 align:start line:63% position:47% size:58% I've hired myself out to slavery, to bondage. 00:17:54.040 --> 00:17:55.374 align:start line:69% position:50% size:41% What am I doing? 00:17:55.374 --> 00:17:56.742 align:start line:63% position:50% size:50% I'm gonna go back to my father's house. 00:17:56.742 --> 00:17:58.577 align:start line:63% position:46% size:68% Randy: And the father, open arms when you came back? 00:17:58.577 --> 00:18:00.046 align:start line:69% position:47% size:58% Chad: He comes running. 00:18:00.046 --> 00:18:04.417 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% The beauty of it is when that sun comes over that horizon, and 00:18:04.417 --> 00:18:06.752 align:start line:63% position:45% size:73% the father says he saw him a long way off, which means the 00:18:06.752 --> 00:18:09.622 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% father's on the porch watching for him, and it says the 00:18:09.622 --> 00:18:10.990 align:start line:69% position:48% size:28% father ran. 00:18:10.990 --> 00:18:12.992 align:start line:63% position:45% size:73% It's the only image we see of God running in the scripture, 00:18:12.992 --> 00:18:15.494 align:start line:63% position:50% size:70% undignified for a Jewish man to show his ankles, right? 00:18:15.494 --> 00:18:17.997 align:start line:63% position:47% size:63% He cinches up his robe and he takes off running. 00:18:17.997 --> 00:18:20.266 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% And I've told a lot of men, because this is what I heard the 00:18:20.266 --> 00:18:22.835 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% Lord say to me in these moments, as I said, if you move towards 00:18:22.835 --> 00:18:24.870 align:start line:63% position:47% size:53% the Father, he'll make up the distance. 00:18:24.870 --> 00:18:26.205 align:start line:69% position:46% size:68% He'll make up the distance. 00:18:26.205 --> 00:18:27.807 align:start line:63% position:50% size:65% And that's what he did for me, and it was the most 00:18:27.807 --> 00:18:29.642 align:start line:69% position:50% size:61% refreshing, liberating-- 00:18:29.642 --> 00:18:31.644 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% And I said to the Lord, I said, Lord, what does this mean? 00:18:31.644 --> 00:18:34.080 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% Like, I have this whole career, I've got this whole image, I've 00:18:34.080 --> 00:18:36.649 align:start line:63% position:50% size:70% got this whole platform, all these things I'm doing, what 00:18:36.649 --> 00:18:38.017 align:start line:69% position:50% size:65% does this look like, Lord? 00:18:38.017 --> 00:18:39.352 align:start line:63% position:48% size:48% I go out and tell jokes for a living. 00:18:39.352 --> 00:18:40.820 align:start line:63% position:50% size:56% Does this mean I can't be funny anymore? 00:18:40.820 --> 00:18:42.621 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% And the Lord said, "Well, you know, son, you were never really 00:18:42.621 --> 00:18:46.125 align:start line:63% position:48% size:48% actually that funny to begin with." 00:18:46.125 --> 00:18:51.063 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% So we're not sacrificing a whole lot, really, and it's been good, 00:18:51.063 --> 00:18:53.799 align:start line:63% position:45% size:73% and we can unfold that in another conversation, but the 00:18:53.799 --> 00:18:58.104 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% Lord has blessed me so much by bringing me back to that place 00:18:58.104 --> 00:19:01.240 align:start line:63% position:45% size:73% where he said, "I invested in you as a young man, now I'm 00:19:01.240 --> 00:19:03.009 align:start line:69% position:45% size:73% gonna make some withdrawals." 00:19:03.009 --> 00:19:06.545 align:start line:63% position:45% size:73% And and as inconvenient as it sounds, it's gonna be good. 00:19:06.545 --> 00:19:07.880 align:start line:63% position:50% size:61% Randy: All right, we're gonna talk about that on 00:19:07.880 --> 00:19:09.215 align:start line:69% position:50% size:41% another program. 00:19:09.215 --> 00:19:10.583 align:start line:69% position:50% size:50% You'll stick around? 00:19:10.583 --> 00:19:11.917 align:start line:69% position:48% size:28% Chad: Yeah. 00:19:11.917 --> 00:19:13.652 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% Randy: Okay, well, first of all, I wanna say anybody who is out 00:19:13.652 --> 00:19:17.723 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% there, whether you are in the position Chad was in, you know, 00:19:17.723 --> 00:19:21.894 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% where you know you've kind of made a mess of things, take that 00:19:21.894 --> 00:19:23.262 align:start line:69% position:48% size:28% first step. 00:19:23.262 --> 00:19:25.131 align:start line:63% position:45% size:73% I've got a first step for you if you don't know what to do. 00:19:25.131 --> 00:19:26.565 align:start line:69% position:46% size:68% Yeah, you can say a prayer. 00:19:26.565 --> 00:19:28.801 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% God may walk in your room during a baseball game like he did for 00:19:28.801 --> 00:19:32.705 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% Chad, but if you wanna pick up that phone and call somebody, 00:19:32.705 --> 00:19:35.374 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% we've got somebody who will pray with you, and that's an easy, 00:19:35.374 --> 00:19:36.909 align:start line:69% position:48% size:43% great first step. 00:19:36.909 --> 00:19:39.945 align:start line:63% position:45% size:73% If you've got a Chad in your life, maybe it's a husband, a 00:19:39.945 --> 00:19:44.150 align:start line:63% position:45% size:73% son, a friend, and again, you wanna pray for them and just 00:19:44.150 --> 00:19:47.520 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% kinda ask God to kind of break them so they'll come back to 00:19:47.520 --> 00:19:53.225 align:start line:63% position:45% size:73% you, again, we care about you guys watching, the audience. 00:19:53.225 --> 00:19:55.995 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% Everybody that calls here, you know, you've blessed us, we 00:19:55.995 --> 00:19:59.532 align:start line:63% position:50% size:50% wanna bless you, we wanna pray with you. 00:19:59.532 --> 00:20:02.301 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% We also wanna bless some other people right now, and you know 00:20:02.301 --> 00:20:04.303 align:start line:63% position:50% size:50% we do this, we reach around the world. 00:20:04.303 --> 00:20:07.873 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% We've got a great opportunity where there are broken people, 00:20:07.873 --> 00:20:13.412 align:start line:63% position:50% size:70% literally people with broken bodies that can be fixed. 00:20:13.412 --> 00:20:16.782 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% So the restoration that we want for you and your family we want 00:20:16.782 --> 00:20:20.553 align:start line:63% position:47% size:53% for others, and we invite you into this. 00:20:20.553 --> 00:20:21.954 align:start line:69% position:50% size:50% Watch this outreach. 00:20:21.954 --> 00:20:24.723 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% This is the last week we'll be on the air with this, but watch 00:20:24.723 --> 00:20:27.960 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% this and consider being a part of the healing of someone else. 00:20:29.562 --> 00:20:31.497 align:start line:63% position:47% size:63% John Yeatts: Hi, I'm John Yeatts, director of World 00:20:31.497 --> 00:20:33.866 align:start line:63% position:47% size:58% Missions for Life Outreach International. 00:20:33.866 --> 00:20:37.169 align:start line:10% position:44% size:78% Although rare, Blount's Disease is a reality for thousands of 00:20:37.169 --> 00:20:40.072 align:start line:10% position:50% size:75% children worldwide that causes the knee and the leg to 00:20:40.072 --> 00:20:41.540 align:start line:10% position:50% size:31% bow outward. 00:20:41.540 --> 00:20:44.777 align:start line:10% position:45% size:73% It's very painful, and I want you to see a young man named 00:20:44.777 --> 00:20:48.147 align:start line:10% position:50% size:70% Plasdus, how his life was dramatically changed through 00:20:48.147 --> 00:20:50.950 align:start line:10% position:48% size:48% corrective surgery. 00:20:50.950 --> 00:20:54.887 align:start line:10% position:44% size:78% Kafwa Sichilima: I met Plasdus, he was a shy guy, reserved at 00:20:54.887 --> 00:20:56.255 align:start line:10% position:48% size:48% the time, you know? 00:20:56.255 --> 00:21:00.793 align:start line:10% position:47% size:63% And I asked him a simple question, how has it been 00:21:00.793 --> 00:21:02.128 align:start line:10% position:50% size:21% for you? 00:21:02.128 --> 00:21:06.499 align:start line:10% position:50% size:61% I just saw tears started rolling down his eyes. 00:21:06.499 --> 00:21:11.604 align:start line:10% position:50% size:70% And he opened up and started saying, "My friends actually 00:21:11.604 --> 00:21:13.139 align:start line:10% position:50% size:31% laugh at me. 00:21:13.139 --> 00:21:19.745 align:start line:10% position:50% size:70% And it's been so difficult for me to just handle this." 00:21:19.745 --> 00:21:22.548 align:start line:10% position:46% size:68% Ilho Moho: It was a bit of a complex operation, but it 00:21:22.548 --> 00:21:24.216 align:start line:10% position:50% size:25% went well. 00:21:24.216 --> 00:21:29.588 align:start line:10% position:46% size:68% In 6 months, he has progressed very, very well. 00:21:29.588 --> 00:21:32.424 align:start line:10% position:50% size:75% So the smile and the encouragement Plasdus gave us, 00:21:32.424 --> 00:21:35.060 align:start line:10% position:50% size:50% it was so promising. 00:21:35.060 --> 00:21:38.564 align:start line:10% position:50% size:81% John: Wow, how amazing it is to see Plasdus running like nothing 00:21:38.564 --> 00:21:40.299 align:start line:10% position:47% size:63% had ever happened to him. 00:21:40.299 --> 00:21:43.035 align:start line:10% position:50% size:70% This is a result of the dedication of our God-gifted 00:21:43.035 --> 00:21:45.704 align:start line:10% position:47% size:63% surgeons who performed the life-changing surgery 00:21:45.704 --> 00:21:47.139 align:start line:10% position:50% size:31% for Plasdus. 00:21:47.139 --> 00:21:49.808 align:start line:10% position:45% size:73% Without this medical mission outreach, he would suffer the 00:21:49.808 --> 00:21:51.477 align:start line:10% position:48% size:43% rest of his life. 00:21:51.477 --> 00:21:54.446 align:start line:10% position:44% size:78% I encourage you to partner with us and help provide surgeries 00:21:54.446 --> 00:21:56.982 align:start line:10% position:50% size:70% not only for Blount's Disease but a whole range of 00:21:56.982 --> 00:21:59.151 align:start line:10% position:47% size:58% pediatric disabilities. 00:21:59.151 --> 00:22:03.355 align:start line:10% position:44% size:78% Because you give, we can keep smiles on the faces of not only 00:22:03.355 --> 00:22:05.891 align:start line:10% position:47% size:53% Plasdus, but children just like him. 00:22:05.891 --> 00:22:07.259 align:start line:10% position:50% size:35% God bless you. 00:22:07.259 --> 00:22:09.261 align:start line:10% position:46% size:68% [speaking foreign language] 00:22:15.034 --> 00:22:18.404 align:start line:85% position:48% size:18% [music] 00:22:18.404 --> 00:22:20.739 align:start line:63% position:50% size:70% Blynda: It would be hard to watch that and not feel some 00:22:20.739 --> 00:22:22.107 align:start line:69% position:50% size:41% sort of emotion. 00:22:22.107 --> 00:22:25.311 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% I think about when the surgeon was asking Plasdus, how has 00:22:25.311 --> 00:22:26.879 align:start line:69% position:50% size:45% this been for you? 00:22:26.879 --> 00:22:29.748 align:start line:63% position:45% size:73% And with tears streaming down his eyes, he starts talking 00:22:29.748 --> 00:22:33.118 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% about how classmates have been laughing at him because of how 00:22:33.118 --> 00:22:37.056 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% he walks, and I think how many pain points in our life if 00:22:37.056 --> 00:22:39.925 align:start line:63% position:50% size:65% somebody just were to ask how has this been for you? 00:22:39.925 --> 00:22:44.363 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% That feeling of being seen, of somebody caring, of somebody 00:22:44.363 --> 00:22:47.566 align:start line:63% position:45% size:73% giving hope, it changes everything, and we see at the 00:22:47.566 --> 00:22:51.503 align:start line:63% position:50% size:50% end that he says, "I feel so good now." 00:22:51.503 --> 00:22:55.708 align:start line:58% position:50% size:81% It is such a blessing, Randy, that we get to be a part of that 00:22:55.708 --> 00:22:57.910 align:start line:63% position:45% size:73% sentence, I feel so good now. 00:22:57.910 --> 00:23:02.147 align:start line:58% position:50% size:81% It changes him not just physically, but it's changed him 00:23:02.147 --> 00:23:04.483 align:start line:58% position:47% size:63% spiritually and emotionally for his life. 00:23:04.483 --> 00:23:06.819 align:start line:58% position:44% size:78% Randy: Absolutely, you know, it is a privilege to be a part of 00:23:06.819 --> 00:23:10.823 align:start line:58% position:50% size:81% this, and you know, it's only because of viewers like you that 00:23:10.823 --> 00:23:15.194 align:start line:58% position:44% size:78% we can even do this, which is why it's a joy to ask you to be 00:23:15.194 --> 00:23:16.795 align:start line:63% position:48% size:38% a part of this. 00:23:16.795 --> 00:23:19.498 align:start line:58% position:44% size:78% And we're coming up to the end of this campaign on television, 00:23:19.498 --> 00:23:24.303 align:start line:58% position:50% size:75% $600,000 to renovate that Children's hospital, to expand 00:23:24.303 --> 00:23:28.874 align:start line:58% position:50% size:81% the operating rooms and recovery areas, and then give more of 00:23:28.874 --> 00:23:33.712 align:start line:58% position:45% size:73% those life-changing surgeries like you just saw to families 00:23:33.712 --> 00:23:38.717 align:start line:58% position:50% size:75% that desperately need it, and it doesn't cost them anything. 00:23:38.717 --> 00:23:42.888 align:start line:58% position:50% size:75% This is the generosity that we talk about on this program so 00:23:42.888 --> 00:23:48.294 align:start line:58% position:44% size:78% much that God loves to see, he loves a cheerful giver, and I'm 00:23:48.294 --> 00:23:49.895 align:start line:58% position:50% size:61% just thrilled to be able to be a part of this. 00:23:49.895 --> 00:23:53.599 align:start line:58% position:50% size:61% But I gotta tell you, we can't do it without you. 00:23:53.599 --> 00:23:56.935 align:start line:58% position:44% size:78% We need your support today, and whatever--you may feel like 00:23:56.935 --> 00:24:03.575 align:start line:58% position:50% size:81% it's insignificant, but God values obedience over sacrifice. 00:24:03.575 --> 00:24:07.246 align:start line:58% position:50% size:81% So if you sacrifice to be a part of this, just do it out of the 00:24:07.246 --> 00:24:09.548 align:start line:58% position:50% size:45% obedience and know that God sees it. 00:24:09.548 --> 00:24:13.719 align:start line:58% position:50% size:81% He sees our pains, he sees our needs, he will supply all of our 00:24:13.719 --> 00:24:17.723 align:start line:58% position:45% size:73% needs according to his riches and glory he promises. 00:24:17.723 --> 00:24:22.161 align:start line:58% position:44% size:78% So, just listen, go to the phone, go online, we ask you to 00:24:22.161 --> 00:24:25.397 align:start line:58% position:50% size:81% make the best gift you can, but I think the best gift you can is 00:24:25.397 --> 00:24:28.634 align:start line:58% position:50% size:75% the one that's made out of obedience, and it may be a big 00:24:28.634 --> 00:24:33.138 align:start line:58% position:50% size:81% dollar amount, it may be a small dollar amount, but the obedience 00:24:33.138 --> 00:24:34.807 align:start line:63% position:50% size:35% is big to God. 00:24:34.807 --> 00:24:39.111 align:start line:58% position:50% size:75% And if all you have to offer today is your prayer, we value 00:24:39.111 --> 00:24:41.213 align:start line:63% position:47% size:53% that, just know that. 00:24:41.213 --> 00:24:43.849 align:start line:58% position:48% size:48% So do what God puts on your heart. 00:24:43.849 --> 00:24:46.185 align:start line:58% position:50% size:45% I think that's the right way to ask. 00:24:46.185 --> 00:24:49.355 align:start line:58% position:46% size:68% But man, I wanna tell those doctors that have dedicated 00:24:49.355 --> 00:24:53.292 align:start line:58% position:50% size:81% their lives to those complex surgeries that changes the lives 00:24:53.292 --> 00:24:57.196 align:start line:58% position:50% size:81% of children, I wanna be able to tell them, yeah, we're doing it, 00:24:57.196 --> 00:25:00.232 align:start line:58% position:50% size:70% we did it, our supporters stepped up, they reached the 00:25:00.232 --> 00:25:05.738 align:start line:58% position:50% size:81% goal, be ready to do more surgeries and bless more people. 00:25:05.738 --> 00:25:07.072 align:start line:63% position:46% size:68% Will you be a part of that? 00:25:07.072 --> 00:25:10.609 align:start line:58% position:45% size:73% We've got some nice gifts we'd love to send you just to 00:25:10.609 --> 00:25:14.847 align:start line:58% position:50% size:81% commemorate your part of this children's hospital, but we need 00:25:14.847 --> 00:25:16.215 align:start line:63% position:47% size:58% to hear from you today. 00:25:16.215 --> 00:25:21.186 align:start line:58% position:50% size:65% Right now go online, go to the phone, make the best 00:25:21.186 --> 00:25:23.889 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% God-obedient gift that you can. 00:25:24.857 --> 00:25:27.192 align:start line:63% position:46% size:68% announcer: Many children in Africa are born with severe 00:25:27.192 --> 00:25:30.095 align:start line:63% position:47% size:58% deformities or suffer life-altering injuries, 00:25:30.095 --> 00:25:33.532 align:start line:63% position:45% size:73% conditions like club feet, windswept legs, and untreated 00:25:33.532 --> 00:25:36.969 align:start line:63% position:50% size:70% fractures force them to live in pain because help is out 00:25:36.969 --> 00:25:38.337 align:start line:69% position:48% size:23% of reach. 00:25:38.337 --> 00:25:40.539 align:start line:69% position:50% size:81% But you can offer healing today. 00:25:40.539 --> 00:25:44.410 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% Our mission partner in Zimbabwe runs a children's hospital now 00:25:44.410 --> 00:25:48.714 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% at capacity and in urgent need of renovation and expansion. 00:25:48.714 --> 00:25:52.384 align:start line:63% position:44% size:78% With a $600,000 goal and only a short period of time to raise 00:25:52.384 --> 00:25:56.321 align:start line:63% position:50% size:75% the necessary funds, your best gift today helps children 00:25:56.321 --> 00:26:00.259 align:start line:63% position:50% size:81% receive the surgical care they need at no 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align:start line:10% position:50% size:56% looking forward to another show with you. 00:27:25.043 --> 00:27:26.411 align:start line:10% position:50% size:41% Chad: Thank you. 00:27:26.411 --> 00:27:28.680 align:start line:10% position:50% size:65% Randy: We'll see you next time here on "Life Today." 00:27:28.680 --> 00:27:38.690 align:start line:10% position:48% size:18% [music] 00:27:38.690 --> 00:27:48.700 align:start line:10% position:48% size:18% [music] 00:27:48.700 --> 00:27:58.710 align:start line:10% position:48% size:18% [music] 00:27:58.710 --> 00:28:02.247 align:start line:10% position:48% size:18% [music] 00:28:02.247 --> 00:28:04.783 align:start line:10% position:45% size:73% Chad: So we think of pain and suffering as being a curse. 00:28:04.783 --> 00:28:06.118 align:start line:10% position:50% size:65% It's not, it's a blessing. 00:28:06.118 --> 00:28:08.887 align:start line:10% position:50% size:56% We are taking our suffering for granted. 00:28:08.887 --> 00:28:10.389 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