WEBVTT NOTE This file was exported by MacCaption version 7.0.11 to comply with the WebVTT specification dated March 23, 2013. 00:00:00.667 --> 00:00:02.936 align:start line:84% position:5% size:43% male announcer: The following program is sponsored by Friends 00:00:02.936 --> 00:00:04.938 align:start line:91% position:5% size:43% of Life Outreach International. 00:00:06.607 --> 00:00:09.943 align:start line:66% position:7% size:42% Matt Chandler: It has left the Christian imagination in the 00:00:09.943 --> 00:00:16.183 align:start line:66% position:5% size:45% West that suffering is normal, and what feels like a loss to us 00:00:16.183 --> 00:00:18.285 align:start line:72% position:13% size:34% might actually be a win. 00:00:18.285 --> 00:00:21.822 align:start line:66% position:5% size:45% I describe sanctification not as up and to the right but think of 00:00:21.822 --> 00:00:28.495 align:start line:66% position:5% size:43% a coil laid horizontally, where every high and low is actually 00:00:28.495 --> 00:00:33.300 align:start line:66% position:5% size:45% still moving you towards something, and that something is 00:00:33.300 --> 00:00:35.002 align:start line:72% position:14% size:30% to become like Jesus. 00:00:35.002 --> 00:00:37.004 align:start line:72% position:18% size:23% announcer: Next. 00:00:37.004 --> 00:00:47.014 align:start line:91% position:22% size:10% [music] 00:00:47.014 --> 00:00:53.787 align:start line:91% position:22% size:10% [music] 00:00:53.787 --> 00:00:55.355 align:start line:66% position:13% size:34% Randy Robison: Hey, welcome to "Life Today." 00:00:55.355 --> 00:00:56.690 align:start line:72% position:5% size:43% We're excited that you're here. 00:00:56.690 --> 00:00:59.159 align:start line:66% position:16% size:28% I'm Randy Robinson, this is Blynda Lane. 00:00:59.159 --> 00:01:00.527 align:start line:72% position:7% size:42% Blynda Lane: Happy to be here. 00:01:00.527 --> 00:01:04.965 align:start line:66% position:5% size:45% Randy: We are here with a dynamic pastor, author, and kind 00:01:04.965 --> 00:01:06.300 align:start line:72% position:11% size:36% of a great guy to talk to. 00:01:06.300 --> 00:01:11.238 align:start line:66% position:7% size:42% His name is Matt Chandler, and he has a brand-new book out. 00:01:11.238 --> 00:01:15.309 align:start line:66% position:5% size:43% It's called "Becoming Like Jesus," yeah, okay, and there's 00:01:15.309 --> 00:01:20.514 align:start line:66% position:5% size:45% a word on there, Blynda, I'm curious, holiness, the everyday, 00:01:20.514 --> 00:01:21.882 align:start line:72% position:17% size:24% what does it say? 00:01:21.882 --> 00:01:24.318 align:start line:66% position:11% size:36% The everyday journey to living a life of holiness. 00:01:24.318 --> 00:01:25.953 align:start line:66% position:11% size:35% What do you think of when I say the word holiness? 00:01:25.953 --> 00:01:27.654 align:start line:66% position:9% size:39% Because I know there's a lot of different things going in 00:01:27.654 --> 00:01:29.489 align:start line:72% position:11% size:35% people's minds right now. 00:01:29.489 --> 00:01:30.857 align:start line:72% position:14% size:31% Blynda: Set apartness. 00:01:30.857 --> 00:01:32.192 align:start line:72% position:7% size:42% Randy: Set apart, that's good. 00:01:32.192 --> 00:01:33.560 align:start line:66% position:9% size:39% I like that one, you're getting the root words here. 00:01:33.560 --> 00:01:34.895 align:start line:72% position:16% size:28% Blynda: I like that. 00:01:34.895 --> 00:01:36.263 align:start line:66% position:9% size:39% Randy: Well, I wanna find out exactly what that means. 00:01:36.263 --> 00:01:37.597 align:start line:66% position:14% size:31% Blynda: What does Matt say about it though? 00:01:37.597 --> 00:01:38.966 align:start line:66% position:16% size:28% Randy: Matt, welcome to "Life Today." 00:01:38.966 --> 00:01:40.300 align:start line:66% position:15% size:27% Matt: Oh, man, it's good to be back. 00:01:40.300 --> 00:01:42.269 align:start line:66% position:14% size:30% It feels like moments ago we were here. 00:01:42.269 --> 00:01:43.603 align:start line:72% position:7% size:42% Randy: Always good to see you. 00:01:43.603 --> 00:01:44.972 align:start line:72% position:17% size:25% Matt: I love that. 00:01:44.972 --> 00:01:46.306 align:start line:66% position:14% size:31% Randy: And this is one of those hot words. 00:01:46.306 --> 00:01:48.976 align:start line:66% position:9% size:38% I think it means different things to different people. 00:01:48.976 --> 00:01:50.344 align:start line:72% position:11% size:35% What does it mean to you? 00:01:50.344 --> 00:01:52.112 align:start line:66% position:7% size:42% Matt: Well, I think it doesn't matter what it means to 00:01:52.112 --> 00:01:53.447 align:start line:72% position:21% size:14% me, right? 00:01:53.447 --> 00:01:56.416 align:start line:66% position:11% size:36% I think it matters how the scriptures define it, and 00:01:56.416 --> 00:02:00.454 align:start line:66% position:5% size:45% holiness is certainly being set apart, and so God calls us to be 00:02:00.454 --> 00:02:03.657 align:start line:66% position:7% size:42% a holy people, but it's also a word that scares the heck out 00:02:03.657 --> 00:02:05.025 align:start line:72% position:19% size:18% of everybody. 00:02:05.025 --> 00:02:06.660 align:start line:66% position:13% size:32% Blynda: Take us through on becoming like Jesus. 00:02:06.660 --> 00:02:09.830 align:start line:66% position:9% size:39% You're focusing a lot on the Matthew 5, the Beatitudes. 00:02:09.830 --> 00:02:14.134 align:start line:66% position:7% size:42% Take us through kind of the heart behind the book and what 00:02:14.134 --> 00:02:16.203 align:start line:66% position:13% size:32% you're--the message you're wanting to give. 00:02:16.203 --> 00:02:19.573 align:start line:66% position:5% size:45% Matt: Well, it's a book that I would argue is probably 23 years 00:02:19.573 --> 00:02:20.907 align:start line:72% position:19% size:20% in the making. 00:02:20.907 --> 00:02:23.844 align:start line:66% position:11% size:35% I don't think a young man should write this book. 00:02:23.844 --> 00:02:28.849 align:start line:66% position:5% size:45% I've pastored the same church for 23 years, I've ministered in 00:02:28.849 --> 00:02:33.920 align:start line:66% position:5% size:45% the same location to the same people, and I wanted to write an 00:02:33.920 --> 00:02:37.257 align:start line:66% position:17% size:24% honest book about sanctification. 00:02:37.257 --> 00:02:41.328 align:start line:66% position:5% size:45% I just think most people think that sanctification is up and to 00:02:41.328 --> 00:02:46.933 align:start line:66% position:5% size:45% the right, and then what happens is a significant disorientation 00:02:46.933 --> 00:02:50.737 align:start line:66% position:5% size:45% when they realize that's not the way this is going to work, and 00:02:50.737 --> 00:02:52.339 align:start line:72% position:20% size:17% so the way-- 00:02:52.339 --> 00:02:54.074 align:start line:66% position:5% size:45% Blynda: And all the sudden God is now disappointed in some way. 00:02:54.074 --> 00:02:57.177 align:start line:66% position:7% size:41% Matt: That's right, and if you'll pay attention to a lot 00:02:57.177 --> 00:03:00.580 align:start line:66% position:7% size:41% of, not all of, but a lot of the deconstructionists, their 00:03:00.580 --> 00:03:02.949 align:start line:72% position:13% size:34% stories sound like that. 00:03:02.949 --> 00:03:05.786 align:start line:66% position:5% size:45% They grew up in church, and they were following Jesus, and then 00:03:05.786 --> 00:03:10.624 align:start line:66% position:5% size:45% their mom got sick, or then they lost their job, or then their 00:03:10.624 --> 00:03:16.463 align:start line:66% position:5% size:45% friend was, and it's like it has left the Christian imagination 00:03:16.463 --> 00:03:22.202 align:start line:66% position:7% size:41% in the West that suffering is normal and what feels like a 00:03:22.202 --> 00:03:24.905 align:start line:66% position:17% size:25% loss to us might actually be a win. 00:03:24.905 --> 00:03:28.341 align:start line:66% position:5% size:45% I describe sanctification not as up and to the right, but think 00:03:28.341 --> 00:03:34.948 align:start line:66% position:9% size:39% of a coil laid horizontally, where every high and low is 00:03:34.948 --> 00:03:38.819 align:start line:66% position:9% size:38% actually still moving you towards something, and that 00:03:38.819 --> 00:03:42.722 align:start line:66% position:17% size:25% something is to become like Jesus. 00:03:42.722 --> 00:03:47.494 align:start line:66% position:5% size:45% So, if you think of a horizontal coil moving forward, okay, then 00:03:47.494 --> 00:03:48.829 align:start line:72% position:17% size:24% what is he doing? 00:03:48.829 --> 00:03:50.163 align:start line:72% position:17% size:24% What is he up to? 00:03:50.163 --> 00:03:53.533 align:start line:66% position:5% size:45% Well, I embed the book in the Beatitudes of Matthew 5, and I'm 00:03:53.533 --> 00:03:56.703 align:start line:66% position:5% size:45% making the argument Jesus didn't come to find these people, he 00:03:56.703 --> 00:04:02.209 align:start line:66% position:7% size:42% came to make them, and so he's not looking for, like, to 00:04:02.209 --> 00:04:07.214 align:start line:66% position:7% size:41% develop these eight character attributes in you, but rather 00:04:07.214 --> 00:04:11.551 align:start line:66% position:5% size:43% through these eight character formation things, over and over 00:04:11.551 --> 00:04:15.255 align:start line:66% position:9% size:39% again, he forms you more and more and more into the image 00:04:15.255 --> 00:04:16.623 align:start line:72% position:21% size:13% of Jesus. 00:04:16.623 --> 00:04:19.025 align:start line:66% position:17% size:25% And so that's kind of the framework. 00:04:19.025 --> 00:04:23.063 align:start line:66% position:7% size:41% Randy: So, how--contrast those two in a way that I can 00:04:23.063 --> 00:04:24.631 align:start line:72% position:19% size:18% grasp, right? 00:04:24.631 --> 00:04:28.668 align:start line:66% position:5% size:45% Because I've always felt like, you know, if I wanted to be like 00:04:28.668 --> 00:04:31.438 align:start line:66% position:11% size:35% Jesus, I just need to act more this way, right? 00:04:31.438 --> 00:04:32.772 align:start line:72% position:16% size:28% That's kind of the-- 00:04:32.772 --> 00:04:36.476 align:start line:66% position:5% size:43% Matt: So, you can do that, but you're not gonna be like Jesus, 00:04:36.476 --> 00:04:37.811 align:start line:72% position:14% size:30% because Jesus, right? 00:04:37.811 --> 00:04:42.149 align:start line:66% position:5% size:43% Is full of the Holy Spirit, connected to the Father, and so 00:04:42.149 --> 00:04:45.185 align:start line:66% position:5% size:45% if you're watching Jesus live a life of discipline, the one that 00:04:45.185 --> 00:04:49.356 align:start line:66% position:5% size:43% most frequently is in the scriptures is withdrawing to be 00:04:49.356 --> 00:04:50.757 align:start line:72% position:14% size:30% with the Lord, right? 00:04:50.757 --> 00:04:53.860 align:start line:66% position:5% size:45% Now, you're not seeing the other ones come to the forefront, but 00:04:53.860 --> 00:04:57.664 align:start line:66% position:7% size:41% if I ask you to study Jesus's life, and I ask you to--which 00:04:57.664 --> 00:05:01.468 align:start line:66% position:5% size:43% part of this is requiring an alarm clock, which part of this 00:05:01.468 --> 00:05:04.571 align:start line:66% position:5% size:45% is requiring, you're gonna say he's up early, he's up all night 00:05:04.571 --> 00:05:05.939 align:start line:72% position:20% size:16% doing what? 00:05:05.939 --> 00:05:08.175 align:start line:66% position:17% size:24% Connecting to the presence of God. 00:05:08.175 --> 00:05:13.513 align:start line:66% position:5% size:43% So, transformation happens in the presence of God so that the 00:05:13.513 --> 00:05:18.151 align:start line:66% position:5% size:43% banner over our life should be I want to orient my life around 00:05:18.151 --> 00:05:19.786 align:start line:72% position:14% size:31% the presence of Jesus. 00:05:19.786 --> 00:05:21.788 align:start line:66% position:15% size:27% How do I keep moving towards him? 00:05:21.788 --> 00:05:25.192 align:start line:66% position:9% size:39% How do I shrink any distance between me and the presence 00:05:25.192 --> 00:05:26.693 align:start line:72% position:21% size:13% of Jesus? 00:05:26.693 --> 00:05:32.332 align:start line:66% position:5% size:43% So if we think through the Beatitudes, there's some--like, 00:05:32.332 --> 00:05:36.570 align:start line:66% position:5% size:43% some theologians would say they actually work in succession, 00:05:36.570 --> 00:05:39.406 align:start line:66% position:5% size:43% that blessed are the poor in spirit, there's your salvation. 00:05:39.406 --> 00:05:41.374 align:start line:66% position:7% size:41% Nobody comes into the kingdom without being poor in spirit, 00:05:41.374 --> 00:05:44.211 align:start line:66% position:9% size:38% they're not wrong, and then it kind of moves through a 00:05:44.211 --> 00:05:46.680 align:start line:72% position:13% size:34% successive kind of flow. 00:05:46.680 --> 00:05:49.049 align:start line:66% position:16% size:28% I think you can make that argument once. 00:05:49.049 --> 00:05:51.651 align:start line:66% position:9% size:38% Like, the first time you go through it is probably a 00:05:51.651 --> 00:05:56.389 align:start line:66% position:5% size:45% succession of those things, but I don't think you could say once 00:05:56.389 --> 00:05:58.391 align:start line:66% position:13% size:34% you've been persecuted for righteousness' sake, 00:05:58.391 --> 00:06:00.193 align:start line:72% position:20% size:17% you're done. 00:06:00.193 --> 00:06:02.829 align:start line:66% position:11% size:36% I've been in, you know, following Jesus now 33, 34 00:06:02.829 --> 00:06:05.065 align:start line:66% position:5% size:43% years, do you know how many times I've had to learn blessed 00:06:05.065 --> 00:06:08.501 align:start line:66% position:7% size:41% are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of God? 00:06:08.501 --> 00:06:11.638 align:start line:66% position:9% size:39% Like, over and over and over again, but every time it's a 00:06:11.638 --> 00:06:13.106 align:start line:72% position:14% size:30% different experience. 00:06:13.106 --> 00:06:15.442 align:start line:66% position:15% size:27% There's something different about it. 00:06:15.442 --> 00:06:19.779 align:start line:66% position:5% size:45% And so when I'm being taught life circumstances from the hand 00:06:19.779 --> 00:06:23.717 align:start line:66% position:5% size:45% of God or my own stupidity, I get invited into the presence of 00:06:23.717 --> 00:06:27.787 align:start line:66% position:7% size:41% God to avail my heart to him and let the work of formation 00:06:27.787 --> 00:06:29.389 align:start line:72% position:20% size:16% take place. 00:06:29.389 --> 00:06:33.827 align:start line:66% position:5% size:43% The way it's working now for most people is, oh, man, I made 00:06:33.827 --> 00:06:38.665 align:start line:66% position:5% size:45% this mistake, I was judge instead of the merciful one, let 00:06:38.665 --> 00:06:42.769 align:start line:66% position:5% size:45% me repent of that and just move on, but what we wanna be able to 00:06:42.769 --> 00:06:46.239 align:start line:66% position:9% size:39% do is just go I want this moment to do its work in me. 00:06:46.239 --> 00:06:48.408 align:start line:72% position:7% size:42% I want this moment to form me. 00:06:48.408 --> 00:06:49.743 align:start line:72% position:5% size:43% That's what God's committed to. 00:06:49.743 --> 00:06:52.279 align:start line:66% position:5% size:45% He who began the good work in you will be faithful to carry it 00:06:52.279 --> 00:06:53.613 align:start line:72% position:18% size:23% unto completion. 00:06:53.613 --> 00:06:54.981 align:start line:72% position:15% size:27% When does that end? 00:06:54.981 --> 00:06:56.316 align:start line:72% position:11% size:36% At the coming of the Lord. 00:06:56.316 --> 00:07:00.387 align:start line:66% position:5% size:45% But in this space between, this already but not yet, every high, 00:07:00.387 --> 00:07:04.391 align:start line:66% position:5% size:45% every low, forming, shaping, and if you don't see it that way, I 00:07:04.391 --> 00:07:06.359 align:start line:66% position:7% size:42% think you'll lose heart, and I think you'll create distance 00:07:06.359 --> 00:07:07.694 align:start line:72% position:21% size:13% from God. 00:07:07.694 --> 00:07:10.830 align:start line:66% position:7% size:42% Blynda: In this in between you speak about, I feel like--I 00:07:10.830 --> 00:07:14.601 align:start line:66% position:5% size:45% think you've even referred to it before, we like things done more 00:07:14.601 --> 00:07:17.504 align:start line:66% position:7% size:42% quickly, and we're in a long journey, it's like a marathon, 00:07:17.504 --> 00:07:21.308 align:start line:66% position:5% size:43% not a sprint, and you even make the analogy that we we're a 00:07:21.308 --> 00:07:26.212 align:start line:66% position:7% size:41% microwave society but a crock pot is our spiritual walk. 00:07:26.212 --> 00:07:28.982 align:start line:66% position:5% size:45% How do you encourage the believer who in this coil you're 00:07:28.982 --> 00:07:32.218 align:start line:66% position:14% size:30% talking about, that's a long journey. 00:07:32.218 --> 00:07:34.988 align:start line:66% position:5% size:45% You said you've experienced that poor in spirit over and over 00:07:34.988 --> 00:07:36.323 align:start line:72% position:21% size:13% and over. 00:07:36.323 --> 00:07:39.459 align:start line:66% position:5% size:43% it's hard, especially the older you get to feel like, man, am I 00:07:39.459 --> 00:07:41.027 align:start line:72% position:14% size:30% ever going to arrive? 00:07:41.027 --> 00:07:44.497 align:start line:66% position:5% size:45% Matt: Yeah, here's what I think's required, deep work over 00:07:44.497 --> 00:07:46.599 align:start line:72% position:17% size:25% time in community. 00:07:46.599 --> 00:07:49.769 align:start line:66% position:5% size:45% So if you have that grid, now you know what you signed up for. 00:07:49.769 --> 00:07:57.243 align:start line:66% position:5% size:45% So deep work, the sheer volume of surface-level triviality that 00:07:57.243 --> 00:08:00.180 align:start line:66% position:5% size:45% most Christians walk in, like never get down to the heart, all 00:08:00.180 --> 00:08:03.850 align:start line:66% position:5% size:43% above the line, strength and might, not heart and soul, like 00:08:03.850 --> 00:08:09.289 align:start line:66% position:11% size:36% vulnerability, confession, deep work, and then the 00:08:09.289 --> 00:08:15.628 align:start line:66% position:5% size:43% acknowledgement that I am not on some quick journey, I'm on a 00:08:15.628 --> 00:08:18.832 align:start line:66% position:9% size:39% long journey home, and Jesus knew what he was buying on 00:08:18.832 --> 00:08:20.967 align:start line:72% position:21% size:14% the cross. 00:08:20.967 --> 00:08:22.836 align:start line:66% position:13% size:34% Like, Jesus knew what he was buying on the cross. 00:08:22.836 --> 00:08:28.308 align:start line:66% position:5% size:45% The reason it's so public and so graphic is because of me, and 00:08:28.308 --> 00:08:30.877 align:start line:66% position:5% size:45% Jesus knew what he was buying on the cross, and he's not asking 00:08:30.877 --> 00:08:32.679 align:start line:72% position:18% size:21% for a mulligan. 00:08:32.679 --> 00:08:39.586 align:start line:66% position:5% size:43% And so he is as committed to me in that journey as he's ever 00:08:39.586 --> 00:08:42.222 align:start line:66% position:5% size:45% been since the foundation of the earth was laid, if you want to 00:08:42.222 --> 00:08:44.391 align:start line:66% position:15% size:27% believe the apostle Paul in Ephesians. 00:08:44.391 --> 00:08:47.827 align:start line:66% position:5% size:45% And so deep work over time, one degree of glory to the next, but 00:08:47.827 --> 00:08:54.067 align:start line:66% position:5% size:45% one degree over two decades is a great movement, great movement. 00:08:54.067 --> 00:08:57.937 align:start line:66% position:13% size:32% And then deep work over time in community. 00:08:57.937 --> 00:09:02.675 align:start line:66% position:7% size:41% You cannot become like Jesus without the effects that come 00:09:02.675 --> 00:09:06.513 align:start line:66% position:5% size:45% from community that's doing that deep work over time with you. 00:09:06.513 --> 00:09:09.749 align:start line:66% position:7% size:42% If you have those three things there, and you'll lean into 00:09:09.749 --> 00:09:13.052 align:start line:66% position:5% size:43% those three things, because they're gonna be times that the 00:09:13.052 --> 00:09:16.189 align:start line:66% position:5% size:45% deep work is a little painful, and it'd be a lot easier just to 00:09:16.189 --> 00:09:18.525 align:start line:66% position:7% size:42% kind of just leave buried what's buried and move forward 00:09:18.525 --> 00:09:19.893 align:start line:72% position:21% size:13% in might. 00:09:19.893 --> 00:09:24.030 align:start line:66% position:11% size:36% There'll be time that the slowness of what Christ is 00:09:24.030 --> 00:09:27.634 align:start line:66% position:7% size:42% accomplishing in us feels like there's a better fix somewhere 00:09:27.634 --> 00:09:29.502 align:start line:66% position:15% size:27% else, and you'll do spiritual bypass. 00:09:29.502 --> 00:09:32.238 align:start line:66% position:9% size:39% You know, you'll go off with some secondary theological 00:09:32.238 --> 00:09:35.141 align:start line:66% position:5% size:45% thing, and you'll baptize it in the Holy Spirit, and it's called 00:09:35.141 --> 00:09:37.143 align:start line:72% position:17% size:24% spiritual bypass. 00:09:37.143 --> 00:09:41.781 align:start line:66% position:7% size:42% Or people will bother you, and you'll change churches eight 00:09:41.781 --> 00:09:45.018 align:start line:66% position:9% size:39% times, and you'll, you know, you'll be spring loaded 00:09:45.018 --> 00:09:46.386 align:start line:72% position:19% size:18% with offense. 00:09:46.386 --> 00:09:48.721 align:start line:66% position:11% size:35% It's called a belonging deficit, which is ironic. 00:09:48.721 --> 00:09:51.691 align:start line:66% position:7% size:41% The reason people run all the time is they have belonging 00:09:51.691 --> 00:09:54.661 align:start line:66% position:7% size:41% deficits, and once you have a belonging deficit, you read 00:09:54.661 --> 00:09:57.831 align:start line:66% position:15% size:27% rejection in a room that it's not. 00:09:57.831 --> 00:10:02.368 align:start line:66% position:5% size:43% Like, I had a young woman share with me that one of the reasons 00:10:02.368 --> 00:10:04.337 align:start line:66% position:5% size:43% she doesn't like going to the church she goes to, she's not a 00:10:04.337 --> 00:10:07.273 align:start line:66% position:5% size:43% member of ours, is because when she's there everybody's judging 00:10:07.273 --> 00:10:10.844 align:start line:66% position:5% size:45% her, and I was like, well, tell me more, say more about how that 00:10:10.844 --> 00:10:12.212 align:start line:72% position:21% size:14% plays out. 00:10:12.212 --> 00:10:14.747 align:start line:66% position:7% size:41% And then she told this story, I mean this is--I'm gonna rub 00:10:14.747 --> 00:10:16.449 align:start line:72% position:22% size:12% my head. 00:10:16.449 --> 00:10:18.952 align:start line:66% position:7% size:41% She was like, well, I walked in, and I went up, my husband 00:10:18.952 --> 00:10:20.820 align:start line:66% position:7% size:41% doesn't go, so he wasn't with me, and everybody's asking me 00:10:20.820 --> 00:10:23.156 align:start line:66% position:7% size:41% about my marriage, like judging me for my husband not 00:10:23.156 --> 00:10:24.491 align:start line:72% position:20% size:17% being there. 00:10:24.491 --> 00:10:28.161 align:start line:66% position:7% size:41% I'm like, or they know you've been married in a newish 00:10:28.161 --> 00:10:31.264 align:start line:66% position:5% size:43% marriage, and they're genuinely curi--but you see what a 00:10:31.264 --> 00:10:32.932 align:start line:72% position:13% size:32% belonging deficit does? 00:10:32.932 --> 00:10:36.569 align:start line:66% position:11% size:35% It makes her read offense where there's none. 00:10:36.569 --> 00:10:40.073 align:start line:66% position:5% size:43% It's just people trying to connect with her, and she's not 00:10:40.073 --> 00:10:44.043 align:start line:66% position:5% size:45% connecting because she has a belonging deficit to begin with. 00:10:44.043 --> 00:10:48.381 align:start line:66% position:5% size:45% But if you'll commit, and you'll dive in with people for the long 00:10:48.381 --> 00:10:51.684 align:start line:66% position:13% size:32% haul, man, the Lord uses that in deep ways. 00:10:51.684 --> 00:10:53.019 align:start line:72% position:9% size:39% He's used it in my own life. 00:10:53.019 --> 00:10:54.621 align:start line:66% position:7% size:41% I mean, there--I don't even-- I'm not supposed to say this, 00:10:54.621 --> 00:10:58.324 align:start line:66% position:5% size:43% there are people in my church I don't like, and what the Lord's 00:10:58.324 --> 00:11:03.830 align:start line:66% position:5% size:45% taught me over time is that most frequently what I don't like in 00:11:03.830 --> 00:11:10.270 align:start line:66% position:5% size:45% them is actually something in me, and so when I go to the Lord 00:11:10.270 --> 00:11:13.406 align:start line:66% position:7% size:41% and begin to pray, he'll do work in me that changes how I 00:11:13.406 --> 00:11:14.741 align:start line:72% position:21% size:13% see them. 00:11:14.741 --> 00:11:17.210 align:start line:66% position:5% size:45% And if you look at the fifty-something one another's in 00:11:17.210 --> 00:11:19.913 align:start line:66% position:13% size:34% scripture, one of them is tolerate one another. 00:11:19.913 --> 00:11:21.581 align:start line:66% position:7% size:41% Like, the Lord just knew like there's gonna be brother, you 00:11:21.581 --> 00:11:23.249 align:start line:66% position:15% size:27% just gotta tolerate that brother. 00:11:23.249 --> 00:11:24.851 align:start line:66% position:7% size:41% Like, you ain't gonna be best friends, you ain't going on 00:11:24.851 --> 00:11:27.153 align:start line:66% position:17% size:24% vacation, but you can tolerate him. 00:11:27.153 --> 00:11:30.790 align:start line:66% position:7% size:41% And I've just learned people are so quick, they don't give 00:11:30.790 --> 00:11:32.125 align:start line:72% position:15% size:27% belonging a chance. 00:11:32.125 --> 00:11:35.595 align:start line:66% position:5% size:43% They go to church, but they don't really belong to one, and 00:11:35.595 --> 00:11:40.767 align:start line:66% position:5% size:43% I think the biblical call to become like Jesus is to belong. 00:11:40.767 --> 00:11:43.036 align:start line:66% position:9% size:38% Randy: Here's the problem, and because I hear the same 00:11:43.036 --> 00:11:44.370 align:start line:72% position:21% size:14% thing too. 00:11:44.370 --> 00:11:45.905 align:start line:72% position:5% size:45% People in church aren't perfect. 00:11:45.905 --> 00:11:48.441 align:start line:66% position:9% size:38% Some of them don't even act like Christians or act like 00:11:48.441 --> 00:11:49.776 align:start line:72% position:9% size:38% Christians are supposed to. 00:11:49.776 --> 00:11:53.813 align:start line:66% position:7% size:41% What do you say to the person who maybe have like genuine 00:11:53.813 --> 00:11:57.050 align:start line:66% position:13% size:34% observations, like these people don't, whatever? 00:11:57.050 --> 00:12:01.154 align:start line:66% position:7% size:41% Because a lot of them give up for some--I mean, the reason, 00:12:01.154 --> 00:12:04.290 align:start line:66% position:7% size:42% the particular reason might be valid, but your greater point 00:12:04.290 --> 00:12:06.593 align:start line:72% position:19% size:18% is scripture. 00:12:06.593 --> 00:12:07.994 align:start line:72% position:13% size:34% What do you say to them? 00:12:07.994 --> 00:12:10.597 align:start line:66% position:7% size:41% Matt: Well, one, I would wanna make some distinctions. 00:12:10.597 --> 00:12:12.966 align:start line:66% position:7% size:42% Like, if I'm sitting with them right now, we're having the--I 00:12:12.966 --> 00:12:14.801 align:start line:66% position:15% size:27% wanna talk about what you're seeing. 00:12:14.801 --> 00:12:17.604 align:start line:66% position:7% size:42% I don't want you in some place that's destructive or abusive 00:12:17.604 --> 00:12:19.606 align:start line:72% position:21% size:13% or toxic. 00:12:19.606 --> 00:12:22.275 align:start line:72% position:5% size:43% So if that's going on, get out. 00:12:22.275 --> 00:12:25.278 align:start line:66% position:7% size:41% Yeah, I don't care what other good thing might be happening 00:12:25.278 --> 00:12:29.082 align:start line:66% position:9% size:38% there, abusive, toxic, destructive, not difficult, 00:12:29.082 --> 00:12:32.585 align:start line:72% position:5% size:43% difficult stay, destructive go. 00:12:32.585 --> 00:12:35.855 align:start line:66% position:5% size:45% And if that's what you're experiencing, I'm telling you to 00:12:35.855 --> 00:12:37.190 align:start line:72% position:22% size:12% get out. 00:12:37.190 --> 00:12:41.327 align:start line:66% position:7% size:42% If you're just pointing at the normal hypocrisy of a human 00:12:41.327 --> 00:12:45.598 align:start line:66% position:7% size:42% being, I would tell you praise God you would feel welcome 00:12:45.598 --> 00:12:46.966 align:start line:72% position:20% size:17% there right? 00:12:46.966 --> 00:12:48.301 align:start line:72% position:5% size:45% You're gonna feel welcome there. 00:12:48.301 --> 00:12:49.669 align:start line:66% position:17% size:25% Randy: There's room for one more. 00:12:49.669 --> 00:12:52.905 align:start line:66% position:9% size:39% Matt: That's right, like, if you're out there, and you 00:12:52.905 --> 00:12:55.541 align:start line:66% position:5% size:45% haven't joined the community because you can't find a perfect 00:12:55.541 --> 00:12:58.011 align:start line:66% position:5% size:45% one, I would just say as soon as you showed up, you would ruin 00:12:58.011 --> 00:12:59.345 align:start line:72% position:18% size:23% the perfect one. 00:12:59.345 --> 00:13:01.914 align:start line:66% position:5% size:45% You better see yourself a little bit with a little bit more 00:13:01.914 --> 00:13:04.283 align:start line:66% position:17% size:25% reality than maybe you are right now. 00:13:04.283 --> 00:13:09.355 align:start line:66% position:11% size:36% And so we're all, like who's batting 1,000 of us? 00:13:09.355 --> 00:13:10.690 align:start line:72% position:19% size:18% Man, I'm not. 00:13:10.690 --> 00:13:13.326 align:start line:66% position:5% size:45% You come too close to me, you'll see the Lord's still got--he's 00:13:13.326 --> 00:13:15.561 align:start line:66% position:11% size:36% got some things he's gotta shave off this brother. 00:13:15.561 --> 00:13:16.896 align:start line:72% position:7% size:41% Randy: And you're the pastor. 00:13:16.896 --> 00:13:18.264 align:start line:66% position:15% size:27% Matt: That's right, isn't that wild? 00:13:18.264 --> 00:13:21.901 align:start line:66% position:7% size:41% And so like nobody, or even like biblically this is true, 00:13:21.901 --> 00:13:23.269 align:start line:72% position:11% size:36% historically this is true. 00:13:23.269 --> 00:13:25.238 align:start line:72% position:7% size:41% Like, I often think of Peter. 00:13:25.238 --> 00:13:27.740 align:start line:66% position:13% size:34% So, you've got that Acts 10 moment at Cornelius's 00:13:27.740 --> 00:13:29.108 align:start line:72% position:20% size:17% house, what? 00:13:29.108 --> 00:13:31.544 align:start line:66% position:11% size:36% He's got the vision of the blanket, kill and eat. 00:13:31.544 --> 00:13:34.280 align:start line:66% position:7% size:42% Brother had that pork sandwich for the first time, you know, 00:13:34.280 --> 00:13:37.450 align:start line:66% position:5% size:43% broke out in tongues, and then he's at Cornelius's house, then 00:13:37.450 --> 00:13:40.920 align:start line:66% position:5% size:45% he's a part of, like even states it's illegal for me to do what 00:13:40.920 --> 00:13:42.255 align:start line:72% position:18% size:23% I'm about to do. 00:13:42.255 --> 00:13:45.591 align:start line:66% position:5% size:43% Then Cornelius and his whole house converts to Christianity. 00:13:45.591 --> 00:13:48.528 align:start line:66% position:5% size:45% Now we've got our Gentiles moving, the kingdom of God fully 00:13:48.528 --> 00:13:50.029 align:start line:72% position:17% size:24% breaking through. 00:13:50.029 --> 00:13:54.934 align:start line:66% position:7% size:42% But Paul has to rebuke him all these years later in Galatia 00:13:54.934 --> 00:13:56.269 align:start line:72% position:21% size:13% for what? 00:13:56.269 --> 00:13:57.637 align:start line:72% position:15% size:27% For being a racist. 00:13:57.637 --> 00:13:58.971 align:start line:72% position:24% size:6% How? 00:13:58.971 --> 00:14:01.040 align:start line:66% position:9% size:39% He had a vision from God, an angel of the Lord spoke to 00:14:01.040 --> 00:14:02.408 align:start line:72% position:21% size:13% his face. 00:14:02.408 --> 00:14:05.178 align:start line:66% position:9% size:39% He was there when Jesus was arrested, saw him crucified, 00:14:05.178 --> 00:14:09.415 align:start line:66% position:7% size:41% touched his resurrected body, ate fish with the resurrected 00:14:09.415 --> 00:14:12.285 align:start line:72% position:5% size:43% Jesus over a smoky fire, right? 00:14:12.285 --> 00:14:16.189 align:start line:66% position:5% size:43% And then is used by the spirit, not just at Pentecost, but to 00:14:16.189 --> 00:14:17.724 align:start line:72% position:14% size:31% usher in the Gentiles. 00:14:17.724 --> 00:14:21.494 align:start line:66% position:7% size:42% And then, you know, decades later, same old racism rearing 00:14:21.494 --> 00:14:23.029 align:start line:72% position:16% size:28% its head in Galatia. 00:14:23.029 --> 00:14:24.864 align:start line:66% position:17% size:25% Paul had to rebuke him to his face. 00:14:24.864 --> 00:14:26.733 align:start line:72% position:5% size:43% Like, you're like, okay, great. 00:14:26.733 --> 00:14:29.135 align:start line:66% position:5% size:45% If God can be patient with that, he can be patient with me. 00:14:29.135 --> 00:14:31.170 align:start line:66% position:7% size:41% Randy: That's the progressive sanctification that you're 00:14:31.170 --> 00:14:32.538 align:start line:72% position:19% size:20% talking about. 00:14:32.538 --> 00:14:38.111 align:start line:66% position:5% size:45% All right, so what hope does the average person, me, Blynda, the 00:14:38.111 --> 00:14:42.615 align:start line:66% position:17% size:25% viewer, have to become like Jesus? 00:14:42.615 --> 00:14:46.352 align:start line:66% position:7% size:42% Matt: Well, I think your holiness and you becoming like 00:14:46.352 --> 00:14:49.455 align:start line:66% position:15% size:27% Jesus is fully paid for and available. 00:14:49.455 --> 00:14:54.560 align:start line:66% position:9% size:38% I think it's fully--I'm not thinking your holiness. 00:14:54.560 --> 00:14:59.065 align:start line:66% position:7% size:41% Both your positional holiness before the Lord and the 00:14:59.065 --> 00:15:03.336 align:start line:66% position:5% size:43% manifestation of that holiness in your life, paid for fully by 00:15:03.336 --> 00:15:07.039 align:start line:66% position:5% size:43% the blood of Jesus Christ, paid for in full, past, present, and 00:15:07.039 --> 00:15:11.110 align:start line:66% position:11% size:36% future, fully, freely, and forever, done, paid for. 00:15:11.110 --> 00:15:14.814 align:start line:84% position:5% size:45% Spirit sealed in you with the promise so that you now have the 00:15:14.814 --> 00:15:17.150 align:start line:72% position:9% size:39% power to begin to live into. 00:15:17.150 --> 00:15:21.387 align:start line:66% position:5% size:45% You just need to be patient with yourselves and repent quickly 00:15:21.387 --> 00:15:25.358 align:start line:66% position:5% size:45% and lean into difficult seasons and suffering, begin to see them 00:15:25.358 --> 00:15:27.994 align:start line:72% position:5% size:43% as normative, because they are. 00:15:27.994 --> 00:15:30.463 align:start line:66% position:11% size:36% They are for men and women in the Bible, they are for 00:15:30.463 --> 00:15:34.133 align:start line:66% position:5% size:45% everybody else, and if we didn't live in a moment where we could 00:15:34.133 --> 00:15:37.570 align:start line:66% position:5% size:43% project this curated image of ourselves, we would actually be 00:15:37.570 --> 00:15:40.573 align:start line:66% position:7% size:42% more encouraged by just how much suffering is going on all 00:15:40.573 --> 00:15:41.908 align:start line:72% position:21% size:14% around us. 00:15:41.908 --> 00:15:46.579 align:start line:66% position:5% size:45% Like, I pastor a church, there's so much pain out there, but 00:15:46.579 --> 00:15:48.481 align:start line:66% position:14% size:30% nobody's willing to really talk about it. 00:15:48.481 --> 00:15:52.485 align:start line:66% position:7% size:41% They cover it up, like I said, with a curated image of 00:15:52.485 --> 00:15:55.555 align:start line:66% position:7% size:42% themselves on Instagram or TikTok or Facebook or wherever 00:15:55.555 --> 00:15:57.890 align:start line:66% position:7% size:41% it is, but the reality is the world's filled with a lot of 00:15:57.890 --> 00:16:01.160 align:start line:66% position:9% size:39% pain, and most people are carrying pain from something 00:16:01.160 --> 00:16:04.163 align:start line:66% position:9% size:39% behind them or terrified of something in the future that 00:16:04.163 --> 00:16:08.034 align:start line:66% position:7% size:42% they think's coming for them, and, man, if we could begin to 00:16:08.034 --> 00:16:12.772 align:start line:66% position:11% size:36% do that deep work, what happened back here, right? 00:16:12.772 --> 00:16:16.409 align:start line:66% position:7% size:42% We could understand that it's gonna take time to unravel and 00:16:16.409 --> 00:16:21.347 align:start line:66% position:5% size:45% renew me, and then I need to find people who want this as bad 00:16:21.347 --> 00:16:24.550 align:start line:66% position:7% size:42% as I want it, and then I'm saying yes to them, and I know 00:16:24.550 --> 00:16:26.419 align:start line:66% position:7% size:41% they're gonna bother me, and I know I'm gonna bother them, 00:16:26.419 --> 00:16:29.222 align:start line:66% position:11% size:36% there's gonna be something in the sparks of that that 00:16:29.222 --> 00:16:30.790 align:start line:72% position:13% size:34% produces transformation. 00:16:30.790 --> 00:16:33.426 align:start line:66% position:5% size:43% So, I don't care who you are, I don't care if you don't know a 00:16:33.426 --> 00:16:36.863 align:start line:66% position:7% size:42% theological term, or you don't know where to open in your 00:16:36.863 --> 00:16:40.999 align:start line:66% position:5% size:45% Bible, if you are a Christian, your holiness has been paid for, 00:16:40.999 --> 00:16:43.202 align:start line:66% position:5% size:45% and I want you to walk in the victory of it, and I want you to 00:16:43.202 --> 00:16:46.505 align:start line:66% position:7% size:42% walk in the joy of it, because holiness brings these pictures 00:16:46.505 --> 00:16:50.943 align:start line:66% position:5% size:43% of like sullen ashen faces, but like holiness, you should be 00:16:50.943 --> 00:16:54.580 align:start line:66% position:5% size:45% dripping with the oil of gladness, like dripping with the 00:16:54.580 --> 00:16:55.948 align:start line:72% position:18% size:23% oil of gladness. 00:16:55.948 --> 00:16:57.283 align:start line:72% position:11% size:36% Randy: That's encouraging. 00:16:57.283 --> 00:17:00.386 align:start line:66% position:5% size:43% We just have to let him do what he came to do, which is to make 00:17:00.386 --> 00:17:01.721 align:start line:72% position:17% size:24% us more like him. 00:17:01.721 --> 00:17:03.089 align:start line:72% position:5% size:43% Matt: Yeah, move near the fire. 00:17:03.089 --> 00:17:04.824 align:start line:66% position:5% size:43% That's the way I would often-- if I was preaching it, it's not 00:17:04.824 --> 00:17:06.325 align:start line:72% position:14% size:31% the way I wrote on it. 00:17:06.325 --> 00:17:09.095 align:start line:66% position:9% size:39% The way I would preach it is like how far are you from 00:17:09.095 --> 00:17:10.830 align:start line:72% position:20% size:17% the furnace? 00:17:10.830 --> 00:17:14.700 align:start line:66% position:7% size:41% Like, the only thing that I'm telling you to do is to get 00:17:14.700 --> 00:17:16.235 align:start line:72% position:14% size:30% close to the furnace. 00:17:16.235 --> 00:17:19.138 align:start line:66% position:7% size:41% And the closer you get to the furnace, the more the things 00:17:19.138 --> 00:17:22.775 align:start line:66% position:13% size:32% that you want to change will begin to change. 00:17:22.775 --> 00:17:24.944 align:start line:66% position:9% size:39% Like, you've been around recovery, you've been around 00:17:24.944 --> 00:17:26.279 align:start line:72% position:17% size:24% things like that. 00:17:26.279 --> 00:17:30.783 align:start line:66% position:5% size:43% You know, an alcoholic who manages the behavior but hasn't 00:17:30.783 --> 00:17:33.319 align:start line:66% position:5% size:43% been transformed is going to be miserable and in a fight the 00:17:33.319 --> 00:17:38.491 align:start line:66% position:5% size:45% rest of their lives, but the former alcoholic sealed with the 00:17:38.491 --> 00:17:42.495 align:start line:66% position:7% size:42% spirit, in love with Jesus, intimately situated there, not 00:17:42.495 --> 00:17:44.931 align:start line:66% position:7% size:42% only has the discipline of not having the drink, but has been 00:17:44.931 --> 00:17:46.265 align:start line:72% position:17% size:25% given a new heart. 00:17:46.265 --> 00:17:47.633 align:start line:72% position:13% size:32% Randy: Doesn't want it. 00:17:47.633 --> 00:17:49.969 align:start line:66% position:9% size:39% Matt: Yeah, and that's the freedom, and this is Jesus's 00:17:49.969 --> 00:17:51.938 align:start line:72% position:13% size:34% beef with the Pharisees. 00:17:51.938 --> 00:17:54.573 align:start line:66% position:7% size:42% This is why he says to 'em, "You have heard it said, but I 00:17:54.573 --> 00:17:55.908 align:start line:72% position:21% size:14% say," why? 00:17:55.908 --> 00:17:58.444 align:start line:72% position:9% size:38% Because he wants us, right? 00:17:58.444 --> 00:18:00.146 align:start line:72% position:9% size:38% Not just physical behavior. 00:18:00.146 --> 00:18:02.415 align:start line:72% position:9% size:39% We're not moralistic deists. 00:18:02.415 --> 00:18:04.216 align:start line:72% position:11% size:35% It's not what we believe. 00:18:04.216 --> 00:18:08.955 align:start line:66% position:5% size:45% The the thing that makes us unique is we're indwelt with the 00:18:08.955 --> 00:18:12.091 align:start line:66% position:5% size:43% spirit of the triune Creator God of the universe and that he 00:18:12.091 --> 00:18:15.394 align:start line:66% position:9% size:39% loves us and is committed to transforming us over time. 00:18:15.394 --> 00:18:17.463 align:start line:66% position:9% size:39% Randy: That's great, that's great, and he's committed to 00:18:17.463 --> 00:18:21.901 align:start line:66% position:7% size:42% you, he's committed to you, to me, he's committed to you, and 00:18:21.901 --> 00:18:26.172 align:start line:66% position:5% size:45% if you want a little bit of just pushing you towards the furnace, 00:18:26.172 --> 00:18:28.641 align:start line:66% position:14% size:31% you can pick up "Becoming Like Jesus." 00:18:28.641 --> 00:18:32.645 align:start line:66% position:5% size:43% In fact, I'd love to send it to you, and there's a way that we 00:18:32.645 --> 00:18:34.013 align:start line:72% position:20% size:17% can do that. 00:18:34.013 --> 00:18:37.550 align:start line:66% position:5% size:43% It involves you kind of doing what Jesus did, which is caring 00:18:37.550 --> 00:18:42.755 align:start line:66% position:7% size:42% for the poor, caring for those who are hurting, bringing life 00:18:42.755 --> 00:18:44.557 align:start line:72% position:14% size:30% where there is death. 00:18:44.557 --> 00:18:48.060 align:start line:66% position:5% size:45% So if you'll watch this, we'll show you how you can be involved 00:18:48.060 --> 00:18:51.630 align:start line:66% position:5% size:45% in something that is very Jesus-like, and then we can also 00:18:51.630 --> 00:18:53.833 align:start line:66% position:15% size:27% tell you how to get Matt's book today. 00:18:53.833 --> 00:18:57.603 align:start line:66% position:5% size:43% So, check this out and pray how you can become a part of this 00:18:57.603 --> 00:18:59.605 align:start line:72% position:17% size:24% blessing of life. 00:19:07.113 --> 00:19:12.118 align:start line:91% position:22% size:10% [music] 00:19:12.118 --> 00:19:18.024 align:start line:91% position:22% size:10% [music] 00:19:18.024 --> 00:19:22.428 align:start line:66% position:7% size:42% Isak Pretorius: So many times I've sat with mothers all over 00:19:22.428 --> 00:19:28.100 align:start line:66% position:5% size:45% Africa, many times mothers in a malnutrition clinic with a child 00:19:28.100 --> 00:19:33.205 align:start line:66% position:7% size:42% who's suffering, and I've asked them what is their hope? 00:19:33.205 --> 00:19:36.275 align:start line:66% position:15% size:27% What is their dream for their child? 00:19:36.275 --> 00:19:39.645 align:start line:66% position:5% size:45% Most times that answer is very similar to what you would answer 00:19:39.645 --> 00:19:45.384 align:start line:66% position:7% size:41% as a mother, "My hope is that my child will be healthy. 00:19:45.384 --> 00:19:51.524 align:start line:66% position:5% size:45% My dream is that I'll be able to provide for my child, give them 00:19:51.524 --> 00:19:54.326 align:start line:72% position:18% size:23% what they need." 00:19:54.326 --> 00:20:00.633 align:start line:66% position:7% size:42% But the reality is that across our continent right now, those 00:20:00.633 --> 00:20:05.738 align:start line:66% position:5% size:43% hopes are being dashed, and those dreams are being crushed. 00:20:07.106 --> 00:20:09.108 align:start line:3% position:9% size:38% [speaking foreign language] 00:20:37.236 --> 00:20:40.072 align:start line:84% position:5% size:43% Isak: While we were not able to get here in time, we were too 00:20:40.072 --> 00:20:43.843 align:start line:84% position:9% size:39% late, but the good news is that we can be there for the 00:20:43.843 --> 00:20:45.177 align:start line:91% position:20% size:17% next mother. 00:20:45.177 --> 00:20:48.481 align:start line:84% position:7% size:41% We can be there for the child that right now is lying in a 00:20:48.481 --> 00:20:51.083 align:start line:84% position:13% size:34% malnutrition clinic fighting for their life. 00:20:51.083 --> 00:20:55.588 align:start line:84% position:7% size:42% We can be there for the child that is out in a rural village 00:20:55.588 --> 00:21:01.327 align:start line:84% position:5% size:45% with no food, but we cannot do it without you, and that's why I 00:21:01.327 --> 00:21:04.463 align:start line:84% position:7% size:41% need you to open your hearts today, and I need you to be a 00:21:04.463 --> 00:21:08.968 align:start line:84% position:5% size:43% part of restoring life to communities, of restoring hopes 00:21:08.968 --> 00:21:15.808 align:start line:84% position:5% size:45% and dreams to mothers, of giving a child the life they deserve by 00:21:15.808 --> 00:21:21.247 align:start line:84% position:13% size:34% giving them that bowl of food each and every day. 00:21:24.383 --> 00:21:27.953 align:start line:84% position:7% size:42% Randy: I don't know if there's anything harder than kneeling 00:21:27.953 --> 00:21:31.891 align:start line:91% position:7% size:41% down next to a child's grave. 00:21:31.891 --> 00:21:36.495 align:start line:84% position:5% size:43% Children are hit the hardest, and you know, it's overwhelming 00:21:36.495 --> 00:21:40.332 align:start line:84% position:5% size:43% a little bit when you're in the field like that, the emotions, 00:21:40.332 --> 00:21:44.503 align:start line:84% position:9% size:39% obviously, even the problem, because there's a lot of 00:21:44.503 --> 00:21:47.173 align:start line:84% position:17% size:25% children that are in desperate need. 00:21:47.173 --> 00:21:51.877 align:start line:84% position:5% size:45% I wouldn't be able to do it, Blynda, if I didn't know that we 00:21:51.877 --> 00:21:56.015 align:start line:84% position:13% size:34% have and we can continue to provide the solution. 00:21:56.015 --> 00:21:59.385 align:start line:84% position:5% size:45% Blynda: You know, I think about Matthew 25, and Jesus is saying, 00:21:59.385 --> 00:22:02.154 align:start line:84% position:7% size:42% "When I was hungry and you fed me, and when I was thirsty you 00:22:02.154 --> 00:22:05.157 align:start line:84% position:7% size:42% gave me a drink," and they say "When did we do that, Lord?" 00:22:05.157 --> 00:22:09.128 align:start line:84% position:5% size:45% And he says, "When you did it to the least of these, you did it 00:22:09.128 --> 00:22:10.462 align:start line:91% position:22% size:10% to me." 00:22:10.462 --> 00:22:14.967 align:start line:84% position:5% size:43% Every time that the generosity that's welling up in you, every 00:22:14.967 --> 00:22:18.604 align:start line:84% position:5% size:43% time you put action to that, you're doing it to the least of 00:22:18.604 --> 00:22:21.707 align:start line:84% position:15% size:27% these, you're doing it unto Jesus. 00:22:21.707 --> 00:22:25.411 align:start line:84% position:7% size:42% And why that's so important is because we're all, in America 00:22:25.411 --> 00:22:28.013 align:start line:84% position:5% size:43% especially, you know, we just take it for granted that we can 00:22:28.013 --> 00:22:30.816 align:start line:84% position:5% size:45% have food every day, that we can have drink every day, yet we 00:22:30.816 --> 00:22:33.118 align:start line:84% position:5% size:45% want to make a difference in the kingdom, and we think how do we 00:22:33.118 --> 00:22:34.486 align:start line:91% position:22% size:12% do that? 00:22:34.486 --> 00:22:35.821 align:start line:66% position:7% size:41% How can we make a difference? 00:22:35.821 --> 00:22:39.692 align:start line:59% position:5% size:43% And here's an opportunity where just you being--giving out of 00:22:39.692 --> 00:22:43.996 align:start line:59% position:7% size:41% just the generosity of your heart literally saves a life. 00:22:43.996 --> 00:22:45.331 align:start line:66% position:18% size:23% It saves a life. 00:22:45.331 --> 00:22:46.699 align:start line:66% position:18% size:21% Randy: It does. 00:22:46.699 --> 00:22:49.702 align:start line:59% position:7% size:42% Blynda: And we see, because we just saw the video, lives are 00:22:49.702 --> 00:22:51.637 align:start line:66% position:5% size:43% ending because of lack of food. 00:22:51.637 --> 00:22:53.906 align:start line:59% position:16% size:28% It's said on that video, hunger kills. 00:22:53.906 --> 00:22:55.241 align:start line:66% position:16% size:28% Randy: Hunger kills. 00:22:55.241 --> 00:22:58.110 align:start line:59% position:11% size:35% Blynda: It really does, and yet we can stop that. 00:22:58.110 --> 00:23:00.312 align:start line:59% position:5% size:43% Randy: We can, and it does, and you know, it's interesting, 00:23:00.312 --> 00:23:04.383 align:start line:59% position:7% size:41% because the new gift that we have, it's a book from my dad 00:23:04.383 --> 00:23:09.588 align:start line:59% position:5% size:45% called "The Father's Heart," and it's so appropriate, because 00:23:09.588 --> 00:23:14.893 align:start line:59% position:5% size:45% this is, I believe, the heart of the father, it's to right the 00:23:14.893 --> 00:23:20.666 align:start line:59% position:5% size:45% wrongs, it's to feed the hungry, it's to express his love through 00:23:20.666 --> 00:23:23.102 align:start line:59% position:7% size:41% his people, because if you look in scripture, God always 00:23:23.102 --> 00:23:26.839 align:start line:59% position:9% size:39% partners with his people, as flawed as we are, and my dad 00:23:26.839 --> 00:23:31.310 align:start line:59% position:5% size:43% likes to say God uses imperfect people to accomplish his 00:23:31.310 --> 00:23:33.012 align:start line:66% position:19% size:18% perfect will. 00:23:33.012 --> 00:23:35.247 align:start line:59% position:11% size:36% And we know from the words of Jesus, we know from the 00:23:35.247 --> 00:23:39.451 align:start line:59% position:5% size:45% scriptures, old and new, it is his will that we are generous to 00:23:39.451 --> 00:23:43.656 align:start line:59% position:7% size:42% the poor, that we remember the forgotten and mission feeding 00:23:43.656 --> 00:23:44.990 align:start line:66% position:22% size:12% goes in. 00:23:44.990 --> 00:23:47.493 align:start line:59% position:9% size:39% Yes, we solve that immediate need by solving the hunger 00:23:47.493 --> 00:23:52.164 align:start line:59% position:5% size:43% problem for today and for tomorrow with your gift, but we 00:23:52.164 --> 00:23:54.600 align:start line:66% position:7% size:42% also minister to these people. 00:23:54.600 --> 00:23:58.237 align:start line:59% position:9% size:39% We don't just go in and give them food and leave, we tell 00:23:58.237 --> 00:24:02.408 align:start line:59% position:5% size:43% them about Jesus, we tell them we're demonstrating the love of 00:24:02.408 --> 00:24:08.147 align:start line:59% position:7% size:42% Jesus Christ as we do this, so they they hear it, and they 00:24:08.147 --> 00:24:09.515 align:start line:66% position:22% size:10% see it. 00:24:09.515 --> 00:24:11.950 align:start line:59% position:13% size:32% It's sharing the gospel in word and deed. 00:24:11.950 --> 00:24:14.820 align:start line:59% position:15% size:27% We're asking you to do that right now. 00:24:14.820 --> 00:24:17.489 align:start line:59% position:13% size:34% Thirty dollars will help feed three children for 00:24:17.489 --> 00:24:18.824 align:start line:66% position:18% size:21% several months. 00:24:18.824 --> 00:24:20.192 align:start line:59% position:17% size:25% Fifty dollars will help feed five. 00:24:20.192 --> 00:24:22.494 align:start line:59% position:9% size:38% A hundred dollars right now would actually help feed 00:24:22.494 --> 00:24:23.829 align:start line:66% position:19% size:18% ten children. 00:24:23.829 --> 00:24:28.167 align:start line:59% position:7% size:42% That's ten children that that won't have to be victims of we 00:24:28.167 --> 00:24:29.668 align:start line:66% position:19% size:20% were too late. 00:24:29.668 --> 00:24:32.938 align:start line:59% position:9% size:38% Some of you can give $1,000 to help feed 100 children. 00:24:32.938 --> 00:24:35.407 align:start line:59% position:16% size:28% Some of you can give far more than that. 00:24:35.407 --> 00:24:39.712 align:start line:59% position:5% size:45% I ask you to do what God puts on your heart, because I know God's 00:24:39.712 --> 00:24:43.282 align:start line:66% position:5% size:43% heart is to help those in need. 00:24:43.282 --> 00:24:46.318 align:start line:59% position:5% size:45% And that's why it's a privilege to come to you right now and say 00:24:46.318 --> 00:24:47.853 align:start line:66% position:22% size:12% join us. 00:24:47.853 --> 00:24:49.221 align:start line:66% position:13% size:32% Will you join us today? 00:24:49.221 --> 00:24:51.590 align:start line:59% position:15% size:27% Will you go online or go to the phone? 00:24:51.590 --> 00:24:55.127 align:start line:66% position:9% size:38% Make the best gift you can. 00:24:55.127 --> 00:24:58.731 align:start line:59% position:7% size:42% I don't like seeing the graves of those young children, and I 00:24:58.731 --> 00:25:03.168 align:start line:59% position:7% size:41% know that with your gift and your love, we'll see far more 00:25:03.168 --> 00:25:10.409 align:start line:59% position:7% size:42% experience a hope for a future than to be buried too young. 00:25:10.409 --> 00:25:12.411 align:start line:66% position:13% size:32% Do something right now. 00:25:13.345 --> 00:25:16.615 align:start line:3% position:5% size:43% announcer: Right now across the continent of Africa, children 00:25:16.615 --> 00:25:20.853 align:start line:3% position:9% size:39% are suffering, facing severe malnutrition and even death. 00:25:20.853 --> 00:25:23.989 align:start line:3% position:7% size:41% With food reserves critically depleted and many areas 00:25:23.989 --> 00:25:28.260 align:start line:3% position:5% size:45% experiencing devastating famine, we urgently need to replenish 00:25:28.260 --> 00:25:32.264 align:start line:3% position:9% size:39% supplies to keep feeding the 350,000 children who are 00:25:32.264 --> 00:25:34.600 align:start line:3% position:5% size:45% counting on us every single day. 00:25:34.600 --> 00:25:38.303 align:start line:3% position:5% size:43% Through Life's mission feeding outreach, your gift of love can 00:25:38.303 --> 00:25:41.840 align:start line:3% position:7% size:41% be an answer to a prayer for a hurting and hungry child in 00:25:41.840 --> 00:25:43.375 align:start line:3% position:15% size:27% their time of need. 00:25:43.375 --> 00:25:48.781 align:start line:3% position:7% size:42% Call now with your life-saving gift of $30, $50, or $100 to 00:25:48.781 --> 00:25:54.720 align:start line:3% position:5% size:43% help feed and care for 3, 5, or 10 children for 3 full months. 00:25:54.720 --> 00:25:58.557 align:start line:3% position:5% size:45% With your gift we'll send you "The Father's Heart" devotional. 00:25:58.557 --> 00:26:02.227 align:start line:3% position:5% size:45% Drawing from Scripture and his past, James Robison takes you on 00:26:02.227 --> 00:26:05.898 align:start line:3% position:9% size:39% a 90-day journey to help you experience a deeper, more 00:26:05.898 --> 00:26:09.468 align:start line:3% position:11% size:36% personal relationship with God as your loving Father. 00:26:09.468 --> 00:26:11.703 align:start line:3% position:5% size:43% With your gift of $100 or more, 00:26:11.703 --> 00:26:14.139 align:start line:3% position:11% size:36% you will receive The Father's Heart bundle. 00:26:14.139 --> 00:26:17.543 align:start line:3% position:5% size:45% This stationary set, paired with the devotional, is a 00:26:17.543 --> 00:26:20.679 align:start line:3% position:5% size:45% thoughtfully-designed collection created to help you share 00:26:20.679 --> 00:26:24.516 align:start line:3% position:5% size:45% encouragement, prayer, and the love of our Heavenly Father with 00:26:24.516 --> 00:26:26.251 align:start line:3% position:14% size:30% those you care about. 00:26:26.251 --> 00:26:29.955 align:start line:3% position:5% size:43% Finally, with your gift of $1,000 or more, which will help 00:26:29.955 --> 00:26:34.460 align:start line:3% position:7% size:42% feed 100 children in desperate need, request Life's beautiful 00:26:34.460 --> 00:26:37.463 align:start line:3% position:17% size:25% bronze sculpture, The Good Shepherd. 00:26:37.463 --> 00:26:40.466 align:start line:3% position:9% size:39% So, please call, write, or make your gift online today. 00:26:43.836 --> 00:26:46.472 align:start line:3% position:11% size:36% Randy: I do hope you'll go online or go to the phone 00:26:46.472 --> 00:26:47.806 align:start line:3% position:21% size:14% right now. 00:26:47.806 --> 00:26:49.174 align:start line:3% position:11% size:35% We need to hear from you. 00:26:49.174 --> 00:26:53.011 align:start line:3% position:7% size:42% It's so close to my heart that these children eat every day, 00:26:53.011 --> 00:26:54.379 align:start line:3% position:13% size:34% and it's because of you. 00:26:54.379 --> 00:26:57.149 align:start line:3% position:5% size:43% Thank you, and please continue. 00:26:57.149 --> 00:27:00.052 align:start line:3% position:9% size:39% And today, if you would like Matt Chandler's book, and I 00:27:00.052 --> 00:27:03.188 align:start line:3% position:7% size:42% would highly recommend it, "Becoming Like Jesus," you can 00:27:03.188 --> 00:27:05.290 align:start line:3% position:7% size:42% request that with any gift, we would love to send it to you. 00:27:05.290 --> 00:27:07.593 align:start line:3% position:13% size:32% And Blynda, I know it's gonna bless people. 00:27:07.593 --> 00:27:08.961 align:start line:3% position:14% size:30% Blynda: Thank you, Matt, for joining us. 00:27:08.961 --> 00:27:11.797 align:start line:3% position:5% size:45% This has been--it's so good, and I'm so excited for this book 00:27:11.797 --> 00:27:13.165 align:start line:3% position:20% size:17% to come out. 00:27:13.165 --> 00:27:14.500 align:start line:3% position:18% size:23% Matt: Thank you. 00:27:14.500 --> 00:27:15.834 align:start line:3% position:9% size:38% Randy: And we appreciate all of you guys joining us. 00:27:15.834 --> 00:27:18.871 align:start line:3% position:7% size:41% Join us every time, tomorrow, yesterday, because you can go 00:27:18.871 --> 00:27:21.773 align:start line:3% position:5% size:45% online and see old shows, and we'll see you again next 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