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male announcer: The following
program is sponsored by friends

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of Life Outreach International.

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David Stine: They realized and
diagnosed me with a rare strand

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of leukemia and obviously did
not have a very good prognosis

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at the time, and they didn't
have a whole lot that they could

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do for me, and--

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Randy Robison: So they were
discharging you to, like--

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David: To go die.

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announcer: A devastating
diagnosis proved to be a

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blessing in disguise.

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David Stine's journey
to find Jesus, next.

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Randy: Welcome to "Life Today."
I'm Randy Robison.

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Good to have you here today.

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If you haven't already figured
it out, one of God's goals in

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our lives is to build endurance.

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And if you've ever had to do
that you're like, "Oh, I don't

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wanna do that."

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It's not an easy thing, but it's
a very good thing, and there is

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some encouragement and some
hope when you understand what

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God promises.

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So we're gonna give you, I
think, a little bit of insight,

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some encouragement, for sure,
but definitely some hope for

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whatever you're facing.

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And look, if you're not going
through something right now

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where you need this, you will,
so just go ahead and pack

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it away.

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My guest today is David Stine,
and he has a book called

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"The Way of the Ox."

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What does that mean?

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We're gonna find out.

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David was a longtime
pastor up in the DC area.

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He's now down in Austin, the
founder of Advance Partners, and

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helping a lot of people, and he
joins us today on "Life Today."

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David, great to see you.

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David: So good to
be with you, Randy.

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Thanks for having
me on the show.

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Randy: Absolutely, so I love--by
the way, I like the book, your

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style, and some of your stories
I really connected with, so I

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enjoyed this personally.

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But we gotta just come out of
the chute and go what are you

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talking about with an ox?

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David: You know, it is
an interesting story.

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I was walking through HomeGoods
one day, doing my husbandly duty

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of following my wife and
hopefully stopping her from

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buying any of the trinkets and
things, and we're just walking

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down the picture aisle, and she
pointed at this one painting of

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this animal.

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And I was like--she said, "I
think we need to have this in

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our living room," and I was
like, "Babe, I don't even know

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what that is."

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And sure enough, we left with
it that day, and I went home to

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discover what that was.

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I was just curious.

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If something's gonna be hanging
in my house, I at least want to

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be able to tell
people what it is.

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And come to find out it was an
animal that lives in the Arctic

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Circle called the musk ox, and I
wasn't planning to do a bunch of

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research, but as I dove in, this
animal has got some amazing

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qualities, and I think
they really parallel the

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Christian life.

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And the one that stood out the
most, initially, was that in the

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wintertime in the Arctic,
instead of going south with all

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the other animals, the birds and
everything, as we see here in

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the States, it actually
goes north into the cold.

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It goes--actually, whenever
there's a storm coming, it goes

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into the storm.

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And it's interesting, and
there's a lot of aspects that I

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write about in the book of why
the musk ox does this, but it's

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uniquely designed by God to
be able to endure just this

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harsh temperature.

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And there's all kinds of other
benefits that it has as well.

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But I parallel that very clearly
to the Christian life, and I

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believe there's just, Randy,
there's some storms in life that

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I haven't been able to go
around, I haven't been able to

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go under.

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As much as I'd love to pretend
that they didn't exist, I had to

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go straight through them.

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And I believe that's where God
really meets us in the storm.

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Randy: We'll come back to that
ox, but I want to talk about

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your storm, because I bet when
you read that, that meant

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something to you that the rest
of us would go, "Well, that's

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just crazy," you know?

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But you probably went,
"I have been there."

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Tell us what happened
to you as a child.

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David: Yeah, that's a story that
has given me the life I have

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today, actually.

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And as a young man, I was 15
years old, and I was a tennis

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player, and very involved and
just wanting to be the best.

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I wanted to play at
Wimbledon, you know?

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Like any other young
tennis player.

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And I started to have these
odd symptoms, and of course my

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parents were very concerned,
and the local doctors couldn't

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figure out what was going on, so
I ended up going--growing up in

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Louisiana, I went to New
Orleans, to Ochsner Clinic,

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where they checked me out
for probably a couple weeks.

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And about a week in, they
realized and diagnosed me with a

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rare strand of leukemia and
obviously did not have a very

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good prognosis at the time, and
they didn't have a whole lot

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that they could do for
me in the process.

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And my grandfather was--my
recollection of him as a kid is

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that he was reading
his Bible every day.

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He was probably
watching your dad too.

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So just consistently just this
man of God that I looked so

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highly up to.

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And he had visited me the day
before I was to be discharged,

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and the following day after he
left, he called, and I remember

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my mom answered the phone
in the hospital room there.

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I'm still laying in the bed.

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I had lost probably 50 pounds.

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I was only about 100 pounds, as
a 15-year-old guy, you know?

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And he said over the phone he
said, "David, I had a dream

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about you last night."

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And this is a great
man of faith.

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And he said, "Yeah, I saw you
just as I saw you the day before

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in the hospital bed, and that
hospital bed went up into

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the clouds."

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And he paused for a second, and
Randy, honestly I was like,

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"This is not an
encouraging call.

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I'm basically going to heaven."

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But he didn't stop there.

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He said, "You came back down
out of the clouds, and you were

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dressed like a
normal young man."

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And he said, "David, I believe
that this dream means that God

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has healed you," and he said,
"I believe you're healed."

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And it was in that moment that
it was like I was hearing from

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Jesus himself that
I had been healed.

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Well, I felt no different in
that moment, but the next day I

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was to have a bone marrow test
before they discharged me to go

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home, and that next day, had the
test, and packing up to go home,

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without any other plan other
than that I was gonna, you know,

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be on some medicine
before I passed, and--

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Randy: So they were
discharging you to, like--

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David: To go die.

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Randy: To hospice or
something, like?

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David: No, it was basically
gonna be a slower thing under

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care of my doctor back home.

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And the doctors come in, and
this is the classic moment for

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me that we often hear of
whenever God intervenes and

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takes physicians off guard, but
the doctors came in the room for

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the discharge and they said,
"We also have some news for you

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about the bone marrow test.

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And evidently, David,
you don't have any leukemia

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in your body any longer.

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You don't have leukemia."

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Randy: So they saw it, and
then they didn't see it.

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Did they say, "Uh, we
think we made a mistake"?

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David: "We can't explain it."

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Randy: Oh, "We can't explain
it," is that what it was?

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David: It's the classic phrase.

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We don't know how to--I mean,
they were honestly talking with

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my mom and dad, and I was
just sitting in the bed.

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And they said, "Yeah, you know,
we don't really know how to

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explain this, but your son
does not have leukemia."

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Randy: Did you say "I
know how to explain it"?

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David: I did not.

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Randy: Did you connect it
with your grandfather yet?

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David: I did, but at that time,
and this might be surprising to

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your audience, but I was
actually not a follower

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of Jesus.

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And it wasn't until six years
later in undergrad, in college,

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that I accepted the Lord
as my Lord and Savior.

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It was in that moment, though,
that God went from this God

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who's far off to a God that's
actually interested in me.

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And that was a huge part
of my testimony today.

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Randy: Okay, so I was going to
ask you, did you ever wonder

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why, you know, God didn't give
you the dream, but instead to

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your grandfather?

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But then when you tell me that
you weren't even a follower,

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it's like--God was like, "I'm
gonna show this guy," yeah.

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Because you instantly go from,
you know, "God's that nice guy

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on Sunday or Easter, Christmas,"
to, "Wait a minute, he's real

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and he's important and
he just healed me."

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And then your grandfather
was the connection to put it

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all together.

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I mean, would you reflect on
that whole how God brought you

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to him process?

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David: I tell you, that's
probably the thing that's most

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amazing about God for me still
today, is that we don't serve

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this God who is just ethereal or
a far-off God, we serve a God

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that is not just able to heal
us, but he's actually interested

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in intervening in such a way in
our life, that he would reach

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and be able to correct something
that we could not do ourselves.

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You know, Scripture says, "He
cleanses us of our infirmities,

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and he heals us
of our diseases."

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The thing I love about that
Scripture as it was for me is, a

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disease is not something we can
get over on our own, so he heals

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us of the thing that we
cannot do for ourself.

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And he's just been so
faithful in that way.

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Randy: I love that you're able
to share it with other people,

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because it it does get
people's attention.

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Okay, so back to the ox, because
you know, in that moment where

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you desperately need
that healing, I mean,

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that's difficult.

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We wanna run away from those
storms, no doubt about it.

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But we talk about this musk
ox and going into the storm.

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It's one thing in your book
that I picked up on, and I can

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actually see a lot of different
applications, so I'll let you

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tell your version of it.

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But the one thing that's unique,
as far as I know, about this

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particular--I'm looking at the
cover, right, this particular

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ox, for people that can see it.

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He's got layers, right?

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That's what enables him
to survive these storms.

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What did you see
when you saw that?

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David: I tell you what, Randy,
this animal, just the more I

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learned about it, and there's
not actually a lot of

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information out there on them,
and what information I could

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find was just another layer and
another layer that parallels

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with our walk with the Lord.

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But the layers, they call them
guard hairs on the outside, and

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they're thick and actually
hollow, and they have those

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year-round because they live,
you know, in the Arctic.

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It's freezing cold in the
summertime as well, you know.

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But the interesting thing is
as the musk ox heads into the

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storm, into the further north,
into the winter cold, it

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actually grows another layer
underneath those guard hairs,

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and it happens really like
clockwork every year.

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It's called qiviut, and it's
this gray wool that grows

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underneath those guard hairs.

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And amazingly enough, this
animal, scientists say that it

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can handle up to -167 degrees
and be fine, which is amazing.

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But this qiviut, the other thing
I learned about it is, come

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springtime, the qiviut
actually falls out.

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It's almost like God has built
it in such a way, designed this

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musk ox where whenever it
doesn't need the layer, it just

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drops off.

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Well, that qiviut today is
actually the most valuable wool

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on earth, and you can tell the
supply is not very much because

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there's not a whole lot of musk
ox on planet Earth, but it's

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actually worth more than
cashmere and other types of

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wool, which to me made it kind
of like a silver lining, almost,

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that God was doing
in the process.

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You know, Scripture tells us
that he's trying to--his goal is

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to make our faith worth
even greater than gold.

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And it's so often that in the
storms of life and in the

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more challenging seasons,
that's really where our faith

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is refined, that refiner's
fire, you could say.

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You know, oftentimes I've felt
in my own life, as I go through

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challenges and God builds
something in me, that I'm

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convinced he's more interested
in my heart and my faith than he

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is in my comfort.

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And that's probably not
encouraging for your audience to

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hear today, but the encouraging
side of that is that whenever

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we're going through a challenge,
you can know that he's actually

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building something on the inside
of us that's even greater than

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the challenge that
we're going through.

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And then of course he's with us
in whatever challenge that we're

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in, just lockstep.

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Randy: Yeah, and you know, when
we start to go into the storm,

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usually we're like, "I
can't handle this."

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We feel overwhelmed and we're
like, "I don't even know what to

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do," you know?

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And I think when we lean into
God in that process, we grow

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that qiviut, you know?

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He's like, "I will give you
what you need to survive this.

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Without me, you may not."

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But he promises that he will be
with us in those, and he does

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that, and then we don't always
see it in real time, but looking

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back, we can see it.

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So, okay, you know I didn't even
get to--I've got these five

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steps to face adversity that are
in your book, and so to really

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dive into this, you're
gonna have to get the book.

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And it's worth getting, and
we'll tell you how you can get

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it here in a second.

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But real quickly, the steps
that you do cover: hope, faith,

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relationships,
passion, and prayer.

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And yes, we all need--we need
hope, and that's what I think--I

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hope we're giving
people hope today.

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And then faith is the thing that
underpins it, absolutely, at

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all--because without
Christ, you can do nothing.

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Prayer is the active part
of that, and then the

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relationships, we
do need community.

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I wanna ask you about the
passion portion of that, because

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when I first just saw the word
I'm like, "Well, that means

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different things to
different people."

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How did that work for you?

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What was the passion that
helped you face adversity?

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David: You know, I think--
let me say this first.

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I really believe that God
desires us to thrive, even

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whenever we're experiencing
challenges, and I think a

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missing piece oftentimes,
particularly in Christendom,

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I've found, is that individuals
would sacrifice that passion

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piece whenever they're going
through a challenging time, and

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I actually think it's one of the
things that launches us forward

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and really allows us to thrive,
even if we are having, let's

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say, a financial challenge,
a health challenge.

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Maybe there is a
relationship challenge.

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But God has wired us in such a
way to really have passions for

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living and the things we put
our hand to, the people that we

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surround ourselves with, and
those are often the things that

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should not be set aside but
really be forefront to really

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pull us forward.

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I know one of the things with
the musk ox, but here we are

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again, Randy, but, you
know, the musk ox, it stays

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in relationship.

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They stay with the same
group their entire lives.

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The young are taken care of by
the old, and whenever they're

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going forward into the
winter--so they've got the

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relationships, and then they've
also got, really, I believe, the

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passion in front of them is that
in springtime is whenever their

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young are born.

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So if you think about the nature
of God and the heart of God

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towards these animals, it's in
the springtime that they're

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having their young.

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Well, since they've gone north,
these young are born in a place

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where there is the first
to the green grass.

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They're also without any
predators around, because all

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the predators went south.

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So they're really able to grow
up in a real kind of green

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pastures, if you will, as
Psalm 23 tells us all about.

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Randy: So the thing that the
musk ox naturally loves is what

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points them to go through it
in the endura--I like that.

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I like that a lot.

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David: And it's how--I really
think if we can have kind of

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that 30,000-foot God's vantage
point and know that he is doing

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something more significant
than we can see in our current

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challenge, that will get us not
only to face the storm but to

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know that on the other side,
God has really great things

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for you and I.

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Randy: So good to hear,
so good to hear.

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I hope you're taking this to
heart, and if you would like to

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get David Stine's "The Way of
the Ox," we would love to send

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it to you today when you help us
with some people who are going

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through a storm right now.

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So watch this and pray about how
you can be a part, and when you

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support this outreach, you
can request this book.

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We'd love to send it to you.

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announcer: For 68-year-old
Menpei, this is just one of up

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to four times a day she
must make this journey to

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retrieve water.

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Her only water source:
a hole in a river bed.

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It is not only a source for
water, but also a source of

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sickness and disease.

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Menpei fears for the health of
her grandchildren when they

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drink this water, because she
has already seen what it has

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done to her son, Tei.

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His stomach and ankles are
bloated and swollen, all signs

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of a urinary tract
infection, or worse.

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They have no money to see the
doctor, but even if they did, it

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would not change
their water source.

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[speaking foreign language]

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announcer: Unfortunately, Tei
is often unable to work due to

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his illness.

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announcer: Life is hard for
Tei and his mother, Menpei.

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By simply introducing a clean
water source, so many of their

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hardships could be
alleviated, and with it,

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hope restored to their village.

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Randy: You know, when you
see stories like that, the

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individual people and how they
are impacted in various ways by

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contaminated water, you start to
understand that Water for Life,

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this outreach that we do, that
we've done for decades now, to

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drill a clean drinking water
source, putting a water well

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into a village, you realize that
it's more than just an act of

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charity when you do it from the
standpoint of Christ, meaning

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we're doing this because we
believe God has put us here to

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alleviate the suffering of
others and to preach the good

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news of the gospel.

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It takes on, I believe, a whole
new meaning when you see the

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individual stories.

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Their story is difficult.

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There are other stories that
are just tragic, you know?

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I've knelt next to graves
of children who died from

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waterborne diseases.

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I've seen the pain of the
parents, of the grandparents,

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who have lost oftentimes
numerous children or

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grandchildren because they
have the same water source.

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Until a solution comes to
them, they will just cycle.

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There will continue to be death
and illness and a lack of

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production, as you saw just now.

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What do we do?

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We come and we break the cycle.

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We break the work of the enemy.

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It's a spiritual act as
much as a physical act.

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So when I tell you that $48 will
help give clean drinking water

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to 10 people, yes, it will.

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But it'll do so much
more than that.

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A gift right now of $144 goes
towards the water wells, and it

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will basically serve 30 people,
because the average well

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is $4800.

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That's based on the 350 wells
that we drill over 20 different

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nations this year alone.

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And we've done this for several
years, so we see the benefit

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of it.

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A typical well will
last about 70 years.

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That's why we call
it Water for Life.

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It'll serve about
a thousand people.

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But what you do today, your gift
today, while meeting a practical

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need, while staving off
sickness and death, it reaches

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beyond that.

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It becomes a spiritual act.

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What a blessing, what an honor.

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I hope you will be a part of
this today as we give Water for

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Life, we give the water
of life which is Christ.

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So here's my question to you.

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What would God have you do?

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Pray about it, and then do
what he puts on your heart.

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It'll be a blessing to others
and a blessing to you.

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Please go online, go to the
phone, make the best gift

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you can.

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announcer: Every day, far
too many lives are lost to

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waterborne disease, and
tragically, children under the

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age of five are the
most vulnerable.

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Through Mission Water for Life,
you can give desperate mothers

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hope and precious children a
future by helping provide clean,

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life-giving water
before it's too late.

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Our goal this year is to drill
350 water wells in areas where

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the need is greatest, but it
won't be possible without you.

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Today, your gift of $24 will
help provide clean water for

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5 children.

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A gift of $48 will help provide
for 10, and $144 will help

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provide life-giving water for
30 people for a lifetime.

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In thanks for your gift of any
amount, we'll send you "Prayers

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for my Spiritual Health."

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This beautifully-crafted prayer
book will meet you in the places

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where anxiety, grief, and
spiritual weariness run deep,

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guiding you through prayers for
inner peace, emotional healing,

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and intimacy with God.

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With your gift of $100 or more,
you may request the "Your Life

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of Prayer" bundle.

00:24:28.367 --> 00:24:31.103 align:start line:10% position:47% size:63%
This collection includes
"Prayers for my Spiritual

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Health," along with "Prayers
for my Physical Health" and the

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"Life Prayer" journal, three
companions to help strengthen

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your walk with Christ.

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Finally, please consider a gift
of $1200 to help provide water

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for 250 people, or a gift of
$4800 to help sponsor a complete

00:24:48.487 --> 00:24:52.291 align:start line:10% position:44% size:78%
well, and request our inspiring
bronze sculpture, "The

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Good Shepherd."

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Please call, write, or make
your gift online today.

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Isak Pretorius: We've just
watched mothers coming down from

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this village to the water source
here, and mothers in this area,

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mothers like these, have been
explaining to us how this is

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their only water source.

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This is where they wash,
as they're doing now, wash

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their dishes.

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Just over here, they try and
collect water where they can

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keep it a little bit cleaner.

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But they've explained
to us how this water is

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actually contaminated.

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The children get sick, they get
sick, they get diarrhea, and

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they've even explained to us how
children have died here because

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of that sickness.

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We know what that is.

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That's waterborne diseases
that are in this water.

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This is unclean water.

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But it's the only
water that they have.

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Can you imagine having to take
contaminated water back to your

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children, knowing that it will
make them sick, and that it

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possibly will cost
them their lives?

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That's why we have to keep
Mission Water for Life going.

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We have to keep drilling wells,
we have to keep putting the

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pumps on those, we have to keep
bringing fresh, clean water.

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And so, what we need you to do
is we need you to open your

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hearts and to respond, and to
give the best gift that you can

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give, because that gift
today is a gift of water.

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It's a gift of life.

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Randy: We do need
to hear from you.

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We need to hear from you today.

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We can help people, but
we must do it together.

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So please go online, go to the
phone, make the best gift you

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can, and request David Stine's
book "The Way of the Ox" if

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you'd like it.

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We would love to send it to you.

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David, it's been
a real pleasure.

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I appreciate you being here.

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David: Thank you so
much for having me on.

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Randy: Are you done with your
storms or you're still walking

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into them?

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David: I seem to have storms
still regularly, you know?

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I think there's more things
God wants to build in me.

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Randy: I believe it's true, but
endurance to thrive is what we

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can have.

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davidstine.com,
you can find him.

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Of course, you can find
us at lifetoday.org.

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And just come back.

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I look forward to seeing you
next time here on "Life Today."

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Kathie Lee Gifford: Hey
everybody, won't you stand with

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everyone here at Life Outreach
International in their

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magnificent Water for Life
program, helping people all over

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the world, millions of
people, have clean water.

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That's what Jesus
would want us to do.

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Hosanna Wong: Some of us think
that we have to get our whole

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lives together before we can
have an encounter with God.

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announcer: Uncomplicate your
relationship with God, tomorrow.

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announcer: "Life Today" is made
possible by the supporters of

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Life Outreach International.

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Your gift will be used
exclusively for the exempt

00:28:18.330 --> 00:28:19.665 align:start line:10% position:48% size:43%
purposes of Life.

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The ministry features specific
outreaches as examples of the

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programs it supports
and conducts.

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Gifts are considered to be
without restriction as to use

00:28:25.737 --> 00:28:27.472 align:start line:10% position:50% size:61%
unless explicitly
stipulated by the donor.

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The ministry is a
member of the ECFA.